1
00:00:37,460 --> 00:00:21,840
[Music]

2
00:00:44,420 --> 00:00:41,730
explode the bazaars are your e-ticket

3
00:00:47,700 --> 00:00:44,430
ride into the world of the paranoid

4
00:00:52,010 --> 00:00:47,710
strap yourself in as we traverse the

5
00:00:55,100 --> 00:00:52,020
universe exploring the unexplained UFO s

6
00:00:57,510 --> 00:00:55,110
ghosts Lost Worlds

7
00:01:01,350 --> 00:00:57,520
cryptozoology waters as well as other

8
00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:01,360
dimensions it's time to take back the

9
00:01:09,420 --> 00:01:06,370
night night now your electrifying hosts

10
00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:09,430
of exploring the bizarre Timothy Begley

11
00:01:20,609 --> 00:01:17,770
and team sports chum Swartz mr. UFO Tim

12
00:01:23,670 --> 00:01:20,619
Schwartz - mr. UFO prepare for landing

13
00:01:26,609 --> 00:01:23,680
on the case er loss or bad ready

14
00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:26,619
time sure flies when you listen to the

15
00:01:31,830 --> 00:01:29,490
impact their music is so good it is

16
00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:31,840
possible they had assistance from

17
00:01:36,270 --> 00:01:34,570
extraterrestrial well ancient astronaut

18
00:01:39,420 --> 00:01:36,280
theorists respond what they were

19
00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:39,430
sounding yes Tim well of course they

20
00:01:46,850 --> 00:01:40,810
always do don't they

21
00:01:55,050 --> 00:01:52,169
Casey all our lunch we're back on earth

22
00:01:58,410 --> 00:01:55,060
after swirling through the galaxy

23
00:02:01,290 --> 00:01:58,420
once the yeah Tim how are you that was a

24
00:02:04,350 --> 00:02:01,300
UH that was real zero gravity up there

25
00:02:07,770 --> 00:02:04,360
wasn't it yes but it's always nice to be

26
00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:07,780
back on good old terra firma era firma

27
00:02:12,150 --> 00:02:10,450
boy nothing nothing like it unless you

28
00:02:16,500 --> 00:02:12,160
hang out on the weekend at the planet

29
00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:16,510
eros which is where I'm from at I find

30
00:02:23,490 --> 00:02:19,090
it's a very it's a very blue planet

31
00:02:25,770 --> 00:02:23,500
mmm I feel like I do like red white and

32
00:02:29,699 --> 00:02:25,780
blue I guess whatever I'm supposed to

33
00:02:33,780 --> 00:02:29,709
say alright anyway enough of this enough

34
00:02:36,380 --> 00:02:33,790
of this Cuban saying I'm sure by now our

35
00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:36,390
listeners want us to get this serious

36
00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:38,770
serious not unlike in the dog star I

37
00:02:43,980 --> 00:02:40,330
think right oh boy

38
00:02:46,289 --> 00:02:43,990
I just Lester you're just full of them

39
00:02:49,649 --> 00:02:46,299
tonight aren't you I'm full of it

40
00:02:51,220 --> 00:02:49,659
alright mate alright and uh enough

41
00:02:54,130 --> 00:02:51,230
enough

42
00:02:55,750 --> 00:02:54,140
why don't you tell us what we're doing

43
00:02:58,330 --> 00:02:55,760
tonight because I know we're rock and

44
00:02:59,979 --> 00:02:58,340
rolling I got my you kill I mean my

45
00:03:05,160 --> 00:02:59,989
electric guitar right here and I'm

46
00:03:08,110 --> 00:03:05,170
wearing my rock-and-roll scarf that I

47
00:03:10,780 --> 00:03:08,120
got for my birthday musical keys and the

48
00:03:13,690 --> 00:03:10,790
piano musical notes in the piano keys

49
00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:13,700
and I'm waiting for Rod Stewart to come

50
00:03:18,910 --> 00:03:15,290
through the door any minute now

51
00:03:20,259 --> 00:03:18,920
Rod Stewart okay I thought you were

52
00:03:29,410 --> 00:03:20,269
going to say that you had your a your

53
00:03:33,430 --> 00:03:29,420
kazoo set and ready to go well I'm not

54
00:03:34,870 --> 00:03:33,440
much of a kazoo player maybe hachoo but

55
00:03:35,380 --> 00:03:34,880
not because there you go anyway go ahead

56
00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:35,390
go ahead

57
00:03:40,180 --> 00:03:37,970
get down get down to your notes there

58
00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:40,190
yeah well we're gonna be rockin with the

59
00:03:46,420 --> 00:03:43,970
saucers tonight and our guests and I'm

60
00:03:49,900 --> 00:03:46,430
just really so happy that that we have

61
00:03:52,780 --> 00:03:49,910
these two fantastic artists with us we

62
00:03:57,699 --> 00:03:52,790
have first of all we have Merle

63
00:04:01,780 --> 00:03:57,709
Funkhouser and Kevin Estrela now we're

64
00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:01,790
all I've known him for ask quite some

65
00:04:07,690 --> 00:04:04,130
time now and this is the first time that

66
00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:07,700
we've had him on exploring the bizarre

67
00:04:14,020 --> 00:04:10,970
so I'm just really thrilled to death

68
00:04:14,710 --> 00:04:14,030
that we managed to get him with us

69
00:04:17,979 --> 00:04:14,720
tonight

70
00:04:21,310 --> 00:04:17,989
now Merle is one of the true innovators

71
00:04:23,500 --> 00:04:21,320
of surf rock music he's been a mainstay

72
00:04:26,500 --> 00:04:23,510
on the music scene in both California

73
00:04:28,420 --> 00:04:26,510
and Hawaii for decades not only

74
00:04:31,060 --> 00:04:28,430
performing live but also producing a

75
00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:31,070
much loved TV variety show called the

76
00:04:38,620 --> 00:04:34,010
Tiki lounge which is now in its 17th

77
00:04:41,770 --> 00:04:38,630
year that's fantastic now Merle's career

78
00:04:44,469 --> 00:04:41,780
began in the 1960s with the instrumental

79
00:04:48,190 --> 00:04:44,479
surf rock group the impacts whose hit

80
00:04:51,190 --> 00:04:48,200
album wipeout is now revered as one of

81
00:04:53,170 --> 00:04:51,200
the era's best surf rock albums now

82
00:04:55,990 --> 00:04:53,180
Merrill has also been fascinated with

83
00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:56,000
UFOs from early on his father was a

84
00:05:01,330 --> 00:04:58,010
flight instructor who believed that

85
00:05:02,959 --> 00:05:01,340
Earth was not the only inhabited planet

86
00:05:05,089 --> 00:05:02,969
in the universe and

87
00:05:08,329 --> 00:05:05,099
that were also hopes that someday

88
00:05:11,389 --> 00:05:08,339
there'll be communications with aliens

89
00:05:13,699 --> 00:05:11,399
he says that if I met an alien I would

90
00:05:16,549 --> 00:05:13,709
greet him with peaceful open arms

91
00:05:20,059 --> 00:05:16,559
welcome space brothers let's talk and I

92
00:05:23,629 --> 00:05:20,069
would love to see that now I should note

93
00:05:26,689 --> 00:05:23,639
that his latest work is his live concert

94
00:05:28,989 --> 00:05:26,699
album Tiki lounge live from Golden Lane

95
00:05:32,629 --> 00:05:28,999
records as well

96
00:05:33,979 --> 00:05:32,639
Merrill's 1967 song Lila

97
00:05:36,019 --> 00:05:33,989
will be featured in the movie

98
00:05:39,799 --> 00:05:36,029
Chappaquiddick in theaters worldwide

99
00:05:42,709 --> 00:05:39,809
opening on April 6 also with us tonight

100
00:05:45,379 --> 00:05:42,719
as I said is Kevin Estrela now I've

101
00:05:47,329 --> 00:05:45,389
known again I've known Kevin for a few

102
00:05:49,129 --> 00:05:47,339
years now and this is the first time

103
00:05:51,350 --> 00:05:49,139
that he's been in our show though I

104
00:05:54,379 --> 00:05:51,360
guess he's been on other programs here

105
00:05:56,149 --> 00:05:54,389
on the mighty Casey eor digital radio

106
00:05:58,819 --> 00:05:56,159
network now Kevin is a world-class

107
00:06:00,019 --> 00:05:58,829
musician of the instrumental rock band

108
00:06:02,449 --> 00:06:00,029
pyramids on Mars

109
00:06:05,779 --> 00:06:02,459
Kevin recorded produced engineered and

110
00:06:08,689 --> 00:06:05,789
mastered his first debut CD subtitled

111
00:06:13,119 --> 00:06:08,699
pyramids on Mars music from the mystical

112
00:06:16,129 --> 00:06:13,129
Red Planet which was released in 2013

113
00:06:18,319 --> 00:06:16,139
now Kevin is no stranger to the UFO

114
00:06:21,229 --> 00:06:18,329
phenomena he says that on August 21st

115
00:06:24,049 --> 00:06:21,239
2014 an interdimensional craft flew

116
00:06:26,209 --> 00:06:24,059
within 100 yards of him and after that

117
00:06:29,439 --> 00:06:26,219
initial sighting he's had contact with

118
00:06:33,679 --> 00:06:29,449
at least three more times with craft of

119
00:06:34,969 --> 00:06:33,689
earthly origin so Merrill Kevin thank

120
00:06:38,899 --> 00:06:34,979
you very much for being with us tonight

121
00:06:41,119 --> 00:06:38,909
on exploring the bizarre hey you know

122
00:06:44,149 --> 00:06:41,129
you know Jim before we get beginning

123
00:06:47,419 --> 00:06:44,159
going around the K cor and living room

124
00:06:49,939 --> 00:06:47,429
round table shaped like a saucer I might

125
00:06:54,319 --> 00:06:49,949
add you know I've been involved with the

126
00:06:58,519 --> 00:06:54,329
rocket music for many many years used to

127
00:07:02,059 --> 00:06:58,529
promote some of the local bands here in

128
00:07:04,699 --> 00:07:02,069
the era of the Glitter rock you know the

129
00:07:08,179 --> 00:07:04,709
New York Dolls the magic tramps parlance

130
00:07:11,119 --> 00:07:08,189
of 42nd Street and I shared an apartment

131
00:07:13,639 --> 00:07:11,129
with Satan a fiery D a fire-eater how

132
00:07:16,820 --> 00:07:13,649
about that one and you know you know I

133
00:07:19,279 --> 00:07:16,830
we've noticed noticed I've been

134
00:07:23,230 --> 00:07:19,289
a lot of rock musicians are just in the

135
00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:23,240
end to the subject just in a big big way

136
00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:26,610
Jimi Hendrix of course is the one that

137
00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:28,770
kind of stands out in my mind I was a

138
00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:31,770
good friend with the Curtis Knight who

139
00:07:37,540 --> 00:07:35,370
was the original bass player in the

140
00:07:41,809 --> 00:07:37,550
Squires which I guess was one of Jimmy's

141
00:07:44,409 --> 00:07:41,819
first bands and the Curtis used to

142
00:07:47,719 --> 00:07:44,419
regale me with stories of Jimmy and the

143
00:07:49,580 --> 00:07:47,729
space brothers in fact there's a movie

144
00:07:51,770 --> 00:07:49,590
out called Rainbow Bridge which you can

145
00:07:53,540 --> 00:07:51,780
see Jimi Hendrix actually sitting in a

146
00:07:56,899 --> 00:07:53,550
teepee cross-legged on the ground

147
00:07:59,839 --> 00:07:56,909
talking about the arrival of these faced

148
00:08:04,879 --> 00:07:59,849
brothers of reincarnation and so forth

149
00:08:08,270 --> 00:08:04,889
and according to Curtis Jimi had a life

150
00:08:09,770 --> 00:08:08,280
saving experience with a UFO he was

151
00:08:11,300 --> 00:08:09,780
playing with the band in upstate New

152
00:08:13,249 --> 00:08:11,310
York around the Woodstock but had

153
00:08:16,309 --> 00:08:13,259
nothing to do with the big festival

154
00:08:19,390 --> 00:08:16,319
there and they were coming back driving

155
00:08:22,309 --> 00:08:19,400
back to New York City and it was a

156
00:08:23,809 --> 00:08:22,319
blustery snowy evening and they got

157
00:08:26,439 --> 00:08:23,819
caught in a snowdrift

158
00:08:28,939 --> 00:08:26,449
and they they couldn't move the vehicle

159
00:08:30,890 --> 00:08:28,949
that they were and you know had all the

160
00:08:33,050 --> 00:08:30,900
equipment and everything I could imagine

161
00:08:35,779 --> 00:08:33,060
was pretty beat up because this was

162
00:08:39,250 --> 00:08:35,789
before Hendrix became very popular I was

163
00:08:41,659 --> 00:08:39,260
doing you know Penn was doing well and

164
00:08:43,010 --> 00:08:41,669
they were afraid now to turn off the

165
00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:43,020
year the engine and the heater because

166
00:08:49,310 --> 00:08:46,290
they would freeze to death and if they

167
00:08:51,769 --> 00:08:49,320
kept it on the carbon monoxide might get

168
00:08:54,769 --> 00:08:51,779
to him but at some point they saw this

169
00:08:57,250 --> 00:08:54,779
object it looked like a missile I

170
00:08:59,569 --> 00:08:57,260
believe it's the way the Curtis night

171
00:09:03,319 --> 00:08:59,579
expressed it to me in this thing land

172
00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:03,329
that not too far away from there man and

173
00:09:09,470 --> 00:09:07,170
a being got out now I kind of had a hard

174
00:09:11,660 --> 00:09:09,480
time pinning him down whether the being

175
00:09:15,740 --> 00:09:11,670
spread its wings whether it looked like

176
00:09:18,380 --> 00:09:15,750
Mothman or whether it was a an angel but

177
00:09:20,210 --> 00:09:18,390
supposedly this being that came out of

178
00:09:22,579 --> 00:09:20,220
the UFO walked around the van and

179
00:09:26,810 --> 00:09:22,589
wherever it walked the snow would melt

180
00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:26,820
and eventually they were able to get out

181
00:09:30,639 --> 00:09:28,770
of the snow drift and snow drift that

182
00:09:32,859 --> 00:09:30,649
they were stuck in and make their way

183
00:09:36,900 --> 00:09:32,869
back to New York and Jimmy always said

184
00:09:41,230 --> 00:09:36,910
if it wasn't for this intervention that

185
00:09:43,540 --> 00:09:41,240
you know he might have not lived through

186
00:09:45,730 --> 00:09:43,550
that night and we've got a lot of other

187
00:09:48,100 --> 00:09:45,740
experiences of rock musicians that I'm

188
00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:48,110
sure that will talk about them you know

189
00:09:53,499 --> 00:09:50,689
during the the evening but I did want to

190
00:09:55,929 --> 00:09:53,509
ask world to start out what what do you

191
00:09:58,299 --> 00:09:55,939
think about Tom DeLonge yeah you know

192
00:10:02,980 --> 00:09:58,309
getting involved in this and being

193
00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:02,990
behind the recent revelations that have

194
00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:06,410
made the the cable news and so forth

195
00:10:16,499 --> 00:10:13,610
about the UFO chasing Island you know I

196
00:10:19,059 --> 00:10:16,509
don't know anything about that I I

197
00:10:21,819 --> 00:10:19,069
haven't even heard about that

198
00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:21,829
oh my well it's been on just about every

199
00:10:27,730 --> 00:10:23,689
year news broadcast they're going about

200
00:10:31,629 --> 00:10:27,740
the - two months ago I guess and now

201
00:10:37,350 --> 00:10:31,639
yeah anyway okay well let's get back

202
00:10:41,410 --> 00:10:37,360
into it let's get into your career here

203
00:10:42,699 --> 00:10:41,420
when did when did you start or what

204
00:10:47,410 --> 00:10:42,709
actually how did you come up with the

205
00:10:49,629 --> 00:10:47,420
concept for for surf surfing music well

206
00:10:55,329 --> 00:10:49,639
I was living here on the Central Coast

207
00:11:00,389 --> 00:10:55,339
of California and it was the early 60s

208
00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:00,399
and I started playing with a group of

209
00:11:10,780 --> 00:11:04,850
high school friends we were all seniors

210
00:11:14,039 --> 00:11:10,790
in high school about that time and we we

211
00:11:17,799 --> 00:11:14,049
formed a band and we were fans of the

212
00:11:22,449 --> 00:11:17,809
ventures and the Champs instrumental

213
00:11:26,350 --> 00:11:22,459
groups and we started playing gigs you

214
00:11:28,689 --> 00:11:26,360
know wherever we could get them and I

215
00:11:31,809 --> 00:11:28,699
started writing these songs because I

216
00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:31,819
was a surfer and I would put surfing

217
00:11:40,319 --> 00:11:35,569
titles to him and so we ended up getting

218
00:11:44,410 --> 00:11:40,329
the house band job at the biggest

219
00:11:47,560 --> 00:11:44,420
Auditorium between LA and Sanford

220
00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:47,570
sisqó here on the beach in Pismo Beach

221
00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:51,170
called the Rose Garden ballroom and we

222
00:11:56,889 --> 00:11:54,410
started playing there weekly on Friday

223
00:12:04,900 --> 00:11:56,899
and Saturday nights and sometimes even

224
00:12:08,259 --> 00:12:04,910
Sunday matinees in 1962 early 1962 and

225
00:12:10,449 --> 00:12:08,269
we were all a long time ago yeah

226
00:12:14,259 --> 00:12:10,459
and we were all just teenagers you know

227
00:12:17,410 --> 00:12:14,269
and then these bands would come to town

228
00:12:21,699 --> 00:12:17,420
like the Isley Brothers and the coasters

229
00:12:24,910 --> 00:12:21,709
and little Anthony and the Imperials and

230
00:12:29,350 --> 00:12:24,920
they'd hand us all sheet music and we'd

231
00:12:31,750 --> 00:12:29,360
have to back them up so we learned how

232
00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:31,760
to do this real quick

233
00:12:37,199 --> 00:12:34,850
and what one night we were playing in

234
00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:37,209
the Rose Garden ballroom that held about

235
00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:40,970
1,500 people and we were playing our

236
00:12:49,329 --> 00:12:45,970
instrumental surf music originals and a

237
00:12:52,329 --> 00:12:49,339
talent stout from Delphi Records label

238
00:12:55,829 --> 00:12:52,339
that put out Ritchie Valens and Bobby

239
00:12:58,870 --> 00:12:55,839
fuller and they discovered a lot of

240
00:13:04,000 --> 00:12:58,880
instrumental surf bands like the lively

241
00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:04,010
ones and the Centurions and they took us

242
00:13:11,610 --> 00:13:07,730
down to Los Angeles and in one session

243
00:13:17,710 --> 00:13:11,620
we recorded all over an albums worth of

244
00:13:19,420 --> 00:13:17,720
material and the producers made the deal

245
00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:19,430
with them we didn't know what the deal

246
00:13:24,699 --> 00:13:21,290
was and we didn't know anything about

247
00:13:27,250 --> 00:13:24,709
copyrights or contracts or anything but

248
00:13:29,590 --> 00:13:27,260
the way they made the deal with Delphi

249
00:13:32,620 --> 00:13:29,600
they had all the royalties and they got

250
00:13:34,660 --> 00:13:32,630
all the front-- money and all the songs

251
00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:34,670
we wrote they even put them in their

252
00:13:41,590 --> 00:13:37,850
publishing company without us signing

253
00:13:45,550 --> 00:13:41,600
and actually we were all except for one

254
00:13:50,379 --> 00:13:45,560
person and the band was 19 and I think I

255
00:13:53,470 --> 00:13:50,389
was about 18 maybe going on 18 at the

256
00:13:56,290 --> 00:13:53,480
time and we recorded to all of these

257
00:13:59,080 --> 00:13:56,300
songs came back up the coast

258
00:14:02,290 --> 00:13:59,090
to Pismo Beach which is on the Central

259
00:14:05,950 --> 00:14:02,300
Coast and within a few months our album

260
00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:05,960
was everywhere was in drugstores music

261
00:14:12,310 --> 00:14:08,930
stores you name it and then we heard it

262
00:14:15,310 --> 00:14:12,320
on the radio and then we started playing

263
00:14:20,170 --> 00:14:15,320
other places besides the Rose Garden

264
00:14:24,450 --> 00:14:20,180
Ballroom but we kept that gig and then

265
00:14:29,020 --> 00:14:24,460
they called us back in about the

266
00:14:34,150 --> 00:14:29,030
September of 62 or no I think it was

267
00:14:37,270 --> 00:14:34,160
closer to Christmas of yeah and just

268
00:14:40,660 --> 00:14:37,280
turning into 63 and had us record some

269
00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:40,670
more songs and those songs ended up on

270
00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:45,170
these various compilations that Delphi

271
00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:48,730
put out called big surf and kfw B's

272
00:14:55,780 --> 00:14:52,250
Battle of the surfing bands and we were

273
00:14:57,850 --> 00:14:55,790
on a lot of those and you know our

274
00:15:00,040 --> 00:14:57,860
parents said well did you boys sign

275
00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:00,050
anything and we said oh were we supposed

276
00:15:09,730 --> 00:15:05,570
to sign something and so about nine

277
00:15:16,740 --> 00:15:09,740
months went by and no royalty checks

278
00:15:19,900 --> 00:15:16,750
appeared magically and so we you know

279
00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:19,910
none of our parents really wanted to

280
00:15:27,610 --> 00:15:22,570
spend the money to get an attorney and

281
00:15:31,450 --> 00:15:27,620
my dad and the sax players dad went down

282
00:15:33,610 --> 00:15:31,460
to LA and talked to a music attorney and

283
00:15:36,940 --> 00:15:33,620
they said well it'll cost about twenty

284
00:15:40,210 --> 00:15:36,950
thousand to start the suit No so

285
00:15:43,630 --> 00:15:40,220
everybody backed off real quick so

286
00:15:47,950 --> 00:15:43,640
that's that's was my first lesson in the

287
00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:47,960
recording world and you know we had a

288
00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:50,770
hit record and eventually over the years

289
00:15:59,530 --> 00:15:56,570
sold a million copies and in 1994 Delphi

290
00:16:03,010 --> 00:15:59,540
was still in business and because of the

291
00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:03,020
movie Pulp Fiction they had some groups

292
00:16:09,970 --> 00:16:07,610
that were music was in that movie they

293
00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:09,980
reissued our album and all the

294
00:16:16,780 --> 00:16:13,130
old surf albums so I went down and had a

295
00:16:20,230 --> 00:16:16,790
meeting with mr. Bob King the owner of

296
00:16:24,070 --> 00:16:20,240
Delphi and I said well we're not naive

297
00:16:27,460 --> 00:16:24,080
kids anymore and we wanted a contract

298
00:16:31,780 --> 00:16:27,470
and we want our royalties so we started

299
00:16:35,020 --> 00:16:31,790
getting royalties from there on but you

300
00:16:38,020 --> 00:16:35,030
know the the big money was made in the

301
00:16:41,170 --> 00:16:38,030
first few years the album came out but

302
00:16:43,060 --> 00:16:41,180
we still get did get you know some

303
00:16:45,850 --> 00:16:43,070
pretty good money but not what we should

304
00:16:49,510 --> 00:16:45,860
have gotten but anyhow that's me that's

305
00:16:51,460 --> 00:16:49,520
the way the beginning story well too bad

306
00:16:53,530 --> 00:16:51,470
you didn't have the space brothers to go

307
00:16:57,670 --> 00:16:53,540
down and zap them one two three I'll

308
00:17:00,610 --> 00:16:57,680
tell you that that might have done the

309
00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:00,620
trick but speaking of UFOs which is kind

310
00:17:11,290 --> 00:17:04,490
of why we're here how did you make the

311
00:17:14,230 --> 00:17:11,300
transition to being a UFO site or

312
00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:14,240
experience or investigator space cadet

313
00:17:20,740 --> 00:17:17,690
or whatever you would a turn yourself I

314
00:17:24,070 --> 00:17:20,750
mean how did that all come about well as

315
00:17:27,070 --> 00:17:24,080
Tim mentioned my dad was a pilot in a

316
00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:27,080
flight instructor and he was a very

317
00:17:37,900 --> 00:17:34,010
open-minded person and we had a little

318
00:17:41,410 --> 00:17:37,910
glider port south of Los Angeles called

319
00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:41,420
Lake Elsinore and we would go out at

320
00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:44,330
night the summer and look at the stars

321
00:17:52,420 --> 00:17:49,370
and talk about UFOs and you know that

322
00:17:55,380 --> 00:17:52,430
was in the late 50s and I said well dad

323
00:17:58,390 --> 00:17:55,390
do you really think there are you know

324
00:18:01,210 --> 00:17:58,400
other beings on other planets and he

325
00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:01,220
said oh there has to be you know that

326
00:18:06,580 --> 00:18:04,010
would be too egotistical to think that

327
00:18:09,120 --> 00:18:06,590
we're the only ones in the universe and

328
00:18:12,850 --> 00:18:09,130
then he would talk about different

329
00:18:17,410 --> 00:18:12,860
sightings and things that pilots he knew

330
00:18:20,350 --> 00:18:17,420
had seen and airline pilots and he never

331
00:18:23,770 --> 00:18:20,360
really saw anything but he was a

332
00:18:27,810 --> 00:18:23,780
believer which sparked my interest

333
00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:27,820
and I bought that Project Blue Book book

334
00:18:35,110 --> 00:18:31,490
when it first came out and I would read

335
00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:35,120
that religiously every night so I was

336
00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:39,650
always into you know UFOs and there were

337
00:18:46,570 --> 00:18:42,730
a lot of those fifties UFO meeting

338
00:18:48,460 --> 00:18:46,580
movies then and I would see those and

339
00:18:51,820 --> 00:18:48,470
that you wouldn't one of your favorites

340
00:18:54,130 --> 00:18:51,830
was The Day the Earth Stood Still yeah

341
00:18:58,149 --> 00:18:54,140
that was one and it came from outer

342
00:19:01,720 --> 00:18:58,159
space was one I remember the Manzana

343
00:19:04,980 --> 00:19:01,730
decks yeah that's I like that one with

344
00:19:09,430 --> 00:19:04,990
the space element yeah

345
00:19:12,340 --> 00:19:09,440
weird-looking Martian behind it yeah but

346
00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:12,350
I I learned my dad taught me to fly in a

347
00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:15,530
Piper j-3 cub and then I later soloed in

348
00:19:22,870 --> 00:19:19,730
a Switzer 126th glider and then I was

349
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:22,880
into model airplanes and I built a few

350
00:19:28,510 --> 00:19:25,490
flying saucers just to see if they would

351
00:19:30,789 --> 00:19:28,520
fly and they were more like gliders and

352
00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:30,799
then back then they had these little jet

353
00:19:35,620 --> 00:19:33,650
co jet engines that you could put a

354
00:19:38,140 --> 00:19:35,630
little pellet in the thing and it would

355
00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:38,150
burn for you know a minute and a half

356
00:19:43,630 --> 00:19:41,330
and propel something so I built a flying

357
00:19:48,820 --> 00:19:43,640
saucer and put one of those on it and

358
00:19:53,500 --> 00:19:48,830
you know could flew and that was how I

359
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:53,510
got interested in you know UFOs and I

360
00:19:59,770 --> 00:19:56,690
kept that interest all along and I was

361
00:20:04,690 --> 00:19:59,780
always looking for something and I

362
00:20:08,409 --> 00:20:04,700
really never saw what I turned something

363
00:20:11,649 --> 00:20:08,419
that was a UFO till I moved to Maui and

364
00:20:15,820 --> 00:20:11,659
I was taking in the sunset at the top of

365
00:20:18,310 --> 00:20:15,830
Haleakala Crater and me and the whole

366
00:20:23,470 --> 00:20:18,320
band I was playing with at the time

367
00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:23,480
called Moo saw this green pulsating

368
00:20:31,090 --> 00:20:27,530
light come over the crater and there was

369
00:20:33,279 --> 00:20:31,100
a whole group of tourists there and a

370
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:33,289
guy that was in the Navy in the Second

371
00:20:37,090 --> 00:20:35,570
World War and he said wow I've never

372
00:20:40,390 --> 00:20:37,100
seen

373
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:40,400
anything like that and just as he said

374
00:20:47,289 --> 00:20:44,570
that to smaller a pulsating bluish green

375
00:20:50,110 --> 00:20:47,299
lights came out of it and went up on

376
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:50,120
each side and they started shining a

377
00:20:57,390 --> 00:20:53,530
light around them which formed a

378
00:21:01,510 --> 00:20:57,400
tetrahedron an inverted pyramid and

379
00:21:04,029 --> 00:21:01,520
that's we we were all well yeah we were

380
00:21:06,580 --> 00:21:04,039
all just sitting there awestruck you

381
00:21:08,860 --> 00:21:06,590
know going wow and I'm thinking I'm

382
00:21:11,409 --> 00:21:08,870
really seeing one I'm really saying one

383
00:21:14,549 --> 00:21:11,419
and then the two smaller lights went

384
00:21:18,130 --> 00:21:14,559
back into the big one and then shot

385
00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:18,140
straight up and disappeared just as

386
00:21:25,779 --> 00:21:22,370
quick as as it appeared and well you

387
00:21:28,450 --> 00:21:25,789
know I I did yeah I did a book quite a

388
00:21:31,450 --> 00:21:28,460
few years ago it's still in print called

389
00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:31,460
Kahuna power and spent some time on the

390
00:21:37,570 --> 00:21:35,510
island around the the volcano on there

391
00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:37,580
and there many many stories of course

392
00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:41,600
the Hawaiians have legends about these

393
00:21:49,930 --> 00:21:45,049
mysterious lights and they have a lot of

394
00:21:53,049 --> 00:21:49,940
sightings just about when the volcano is

395
00:21:56,529 --> 00:21:53,059
ready to erupt not only sightings of

396
00:21:59,649 --> 00:21:56,539
mysterious lights in the sky a but of

397
00:22:02,169 --> 00:21:59,659
Madame Pele who is the fire goddess she

398
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:02,179
are a woman with blazing red hair is

399
00:22:06,789 --> 00:22:05,090
seen hitchhiking along the the highway

400
00:22:10,180 --> 00:22:06,799
you know yeah I know all of those

401
00:22:13,630 --> 00:22:10,190
stories because I lived on Maui for 15

402
00:22:17,020 --> 00:22:13,640
years and I read the old books where on

403
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:17,030
Maui in the 1800s they would see lights

404
00:22:23,140 --> 00:22:20,690
come out of the ocean go into haleakala

405
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:23,150
crater and then they'd see lights come

406
00:22:30,820 --> 00:22:26,210
out of the crater and dive back into the

407
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:30,830
ocean and you know people talked talked

408
00:22:35,770 --> 00:22:34,250
about that quite a bit that I ever

409
00:22:39,850 --> 00:22:35,780
written any have you ever written any

410
00:22:43,330 --> 00:22:39,860
songs that to bring in the UFO concept

411
00:22:45,730 --> 00:22:43,340
oh yeah I've got several albums full

412
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:45,740
those songs that I wrote that was

413
00:22:49,570 --> 00:22:48,290
inspired by that sighting I just talked

414
00:22:54,370 --> 00:22:49,580
about with

415
00:22:57,310 --> 00:22:54,380
called calling from a star and I was

416
00:23:01,450 --> 00:22:57,320
inspired by what I saw and I went down

417
00:23:05,710 --> 00:23:01,460
to our house in haiku turned on my old

418
00:23:06,370 --> 00:23:05,720
reel-to-reel tape recorder in about 15

419
00:23:10,890 --> 00:23:06,380
minutes

420
00:23:13,690 --> 00:23:10,900
I had this song finished that I recorded

421
00:23:15,310 --> 00:23:13,700
you know so I wouldn't forget it because

422
00:23:18,340 --> 00:23:15,320
that's what I'd find

423
00:23:19,930 --> 00:23:18,350
a lot of things that I was inspired by

424
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:19,940
more we're gonna have to interrupt you

425
00:23:23,250 --> 00:23:21,410
here because we have to go to our first

426
00:23:34,630 --> 00:23:23,260
break you'll be right back

427
00:23:37,180 --> 00:23:34,640
Boyzone now back to exploring the

428
00:23:39,550 --> 00:23:37,190
bazaars with two of the most

429
00:23:43,330 --> 00:23:39,560
electrifying researchers in the Paranoid

430
00:23:51,420 --> 00:23:43,340
your hosts Timothy Becca Lee and team

431
00:23:51,430 --> 00:24:05,419
[Music]

432
00:24:11,779 --> 00:24:09,259
Merrill's messages from the dome and

433
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:11,789
that was from his album single signals

434
00:24:18,229 --> 00:24:15,450
from Malibu and Merrill later on the

435
00:24:21,710 --> 00:24:18,239
program I want to get in a little bit

436
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:21,720
more about the production of that album

437
00:24:29,269 --> 00:24:26,369
and so hold your thought on that but I

438
00:24:32,210 --> 00:24:29,279
want you to quickly finish the story

439
00:24:34,129 --> 00:24:32,220
that you were telling before we went on

440
00:24:37,549 --> 00:24:34,139
our break and then we'll bring Kevin

441
00:24:40,820 --> 00:24:37,559
into the conversation yeah okay well we

442
00:24:44,529 --> 00:24:40,830
saw the UFO sighting at the top of

443
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:44,539
Haleakala Crater on Maui and that was in

444
00:24:53,839 --> 00:24:48,690
1974 and we went back down to our house

445
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:53,849
and haiku and I immediately had the

446
00:24:59,989 --> 00:24:56,369
inspiration to write the song calling

447
00:25:03,799 --> 00:24:59,999
from a star and we later went back up to

448
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:03,809
the top of the crater and did a video of

449
00:25:10,039 --> 00:25:07,369
it and while we were filming the video

450
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:10,049
we noticed there was a man in a blue

451
00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:12,690
blazer with short hair standing in the

452
00:25:18,950 --> 00:25:15,840
background and we had the crew with all

453
00:25:22,159 --> 00:25:18,960
the reflectors and lights and stuff and

454
00:25:24,649 --> 00:25:22,169
when we finished he came up and he said

455
00:25:28,639 --> 00:25:24,659
you didn't film anything down in the

456
00:25:31,879 --> 00:25:28,649
floor or get the domes on the rim of the

457
00:25:35,589 --> 00:25:31,889
crater did you and we said no because

458
00:25:39,409 --> 00:25:35,599
there's a supposed satellite tracking

459
00:25:44,930 --> 00:25:39,419
standard science science city science

460
00:25:48,279 --> 00:25:44,940
city but there is also a laser thing in

461
00:25:52,029 --> 00:25:48,289
it so anyhow he took us down into the

462
00:25:54,950 --> 00:25:52,039
observatory room and got the producers

463
00:25:58,430 --> 00:25:54,960
driver's license information and my

464
00:26:01,159 --> 00:25:58,440
Hawaii driver's license and he let us go

465
00:26:03,710 --> 00:26:01,169
but he was trying to get the film from

466
00:26:07,909 --> 00:26:03,720
us but the crew had already gone down

467
00:26:11,389 --> 00:26:07,919
the mountain with the film so it got out

468
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:11,399
on film and it was shot on 16 millimeter

469
00:26:16,910 --> 00:26:15,330
and we eventually got it on video and in

470
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:16,920
the late 70s in a

471
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:20,970
it was on television quite a few places

472
00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:23,970
even in Europe and now you can see

473
00:26:30,590 --> 00:26:26,720
calling from a star by miral fankhauser

474
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:30,600
on youtube you can go there and actually

475
00:26:36,980 --> 00:26:34,530
see the whole thing and that's right

476
00:26:39,380 --> 00:26:36,990
well you bet I'm going to do that the

477
00:26:41,930 --> 00:26:39,390
song is going to come out again on a

478
00:26:45,410 --> 00:26:41,940
compilation in England they're putting

479
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:45,420
out a space rock compilation with a lot

480
00:26:53,710 --> 00:26:48,330
of other groups and they're going to use

481
00:26:57,500 --> 00:26:53,720
that song calling from the star mmm

482
00:27:00,020 --> 00:26:57,510
fantastic well can't wait to until that

483
00:27:02,180 --> 00:27:00,030
comes out and I've seen you know the The

484
00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:02,190
Verge you just referred to on a youtube

485
00:27:08,900 --> 00:27:07,200
and I'm I'm happy that the crew was able

486
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:08,910
to get that down the mountain and all

487
00:27:14,510 --> 00:27:11,490
the way or else you'd be talking about

488
00:27:16,370 --> 00:27:14,520
this and nobody would have seen it

489
00:27:19,850 --> 00:27:16,380
you're right I had nobody not many of

490
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:19,860
you either what is what what is on the

491
00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:21,930
video I mean you actually captured a UFO

492
00:27:27,650 --> 00:27:25,200
on there no we didn't capture the UFO we

493
00:27:30,860 --> 00:27:27,660
went back up to the top of the crater

494
00:27:34,940 --> 00:27:30,870
after I had written and recorded this

495
00:27:38,050 --> 00:27:34,950
song and then we filmed me performing

496
00:27:42,050 --> 00:27:38,060
the song at the top of the crater at

497
00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:42,060
11,000 feet and it's pretty eerie and

498
00:27:50,060 --> 00:27:48,000
just the way it isn't but we're lucky

499
00:27:52,550 --> 00:27:50,070
that we actually got to keep it because

500
00:27:55,910 --> 00:27:52,560
I believe he would have Contin skated

501
00:27:59,510 --> 00:27:55,920
our film if he could have and what I

502
00:28:02,450 --> 00:27:59,520
found out a few years later I hiked

503
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:02,460
through the floor of the crater there's

504
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:04,970
a pyramid in the middle of the lava flow

505
00:28:13,610 --> 00:28:09,570
nice and I have a feeling that that has

506
00:28:16,940 --> 00:28:13,620
something to do with why this whatever

507
00:28:20,690 --> 00:28:16,950
he was park ranger he looked like you

508
00:28:22,820 --> 00:28:20,700
know an FBI guy or something didn't want

509
00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:22,830
us to shoot the floor of the crater and

510
00:28:27,530 --> 00:28:24,960
we all thought that was very strange we

511
00:28:30,729 --> 00:28:27,540
could understand why he didn't want us

512
00:28:34,729 --> 00:28:30,739
to film the domes science city

513
00:28:39,019 --> 00:28:34,739
but the floor of the crater and I found

514
00:28:42,619 --> 00:28:39,029
this pyramid and I took pictures of it

515
00:28:44,570 --> 00:28:42,629
and it's in my book which is also titled

516
00:28:47,839 --> 00:28:44,580
calling from the star the Merle

517
00:28:51,799 --> 00:28:47,849
fankhauser story that you can get on

518
00:28:56,330 --> 00:28:51,809
Amazon and there's pictures of that in

519
00:29:01,310 --> 00:28:56,340
other pre Hawaiian ruins I found on Maui

520
00:29:04,399 --> 00:29:01,320
in the book and National Geographic the

521
00:29:08,210 --> 00:29:04,409
parks department gave them permission to

522
00:29:10,099 --> 00:29:08,220
go up with a powered auger and they

523
00:29:12,820 --> 00:29:10,109
drilled a hole in the side of this

524
00:29:16,940 --> 00:29:12,830
pyramid which sticks up out of this

525
00:29:20,450 --> 00:29:16,950
thousand-year-old lava flow about 40

526
00:29:23,779 --> 00:29:20,460
feet and they concluded it was just the

527
00:29:27,229 --> 00:29:23,789
capstone to a larger pyramid that went

528
00:29:30,139 --> 00:29:27,239
down under the lava Wow

529
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:30,149
that's terrific stuff that's terrific as

530
00:29:34,789 --> 00:29:32,450
far as I know I'm the only one that ever

531
00:29:38,239 --> 00:29:34,799
took a picture of it because you're not

532
00:29:40,639 --> 00:29:38,249
supposed to get off the trail and the

533
00:29:46,060 --> 00:29:40,649
Rangers really get upset if you leave

534
00:29:49,369 --> 00:29:46,070
the trail and I had to jump some deep

535
00:29:51,919 --> 00:29:49,379
chasms and it was very dangerous to get

536
00:29:55,180 --> 00:29:51,929
to this thing but I was so enthralled

537
00:29:59,450 --> 00:29:55,190
with it I was running on adrenaline and

538
00:30:02,029 --> 00:29:59,460
it I discovered a lot of things over

539
00:30:05,389 --> 00:30:02,039
there on the other desolate side of the

540
00:30:08,749 --> 00:30:05,399
island where the lava flow goes down and

541
00:30:11,899 --> 00:30:08,759
there was no buildings built over there

542
00:30:14,989 --> 00:30:11,909
there's a whole city under the lava

543
00:30:18,999 --> 00:30:14,999
there that looks like Mayan Indian

544
00:30:21,619 --> 00:30:19,009
construction nothing Hawaiian about it

545
00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:21,629
well I'm glad you you brought up

546
00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:24,960
pyramids there Beryl because that's a

547
00:30:32,739 --> 00:30:28,049
good segue to bring Kevin into our

548
00:30:35,330 --> 00:30:32,749
conversations can have pyramids on Mars

549
00:30:37,860 --> 00:30:35,340
and

550
00:30:40,940 --> 00:30:37,870
you know I heard you Kevin as Mara was

551
00:30:45,150 --> 00:30:40,950
talking about pyramids you know your

552
00:30:50,850 --> 00:30:45,160
fascination with this I mean have you

553
00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:50,860
been even before you had your UFO

554
00:30:55,770 --> 00:30:52,480
experience I mean had you been

555
00:30:58,500 --> 00:30:55,780
fascinated by the whole subject of you

556
00:30:59,190 --> 00:30:58,510
know UFOs and paranormal and and that

557
00:31:01,800 --> 00:30:59,200
sort of thing

558
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:01,810
I have been I've been fascinated with it

559
00:31:07,620 --> 00:31:03,970
my entire life yeah mm-hmm and it really

560
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:07,630
I really started developing who I was

561
00:31:13,140 --> 00:31:09,970
when I started University when I was 19

562
00:31:14,730 --> 00:31:13,150
when the guy downstairs this is the

563
00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:14,740
first guy who ever had Internet remember

564
00:31:19,710 --> 00:31:18,310
this is 1992 and this guy down below me

565
00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:19,720
he was pulling up all these documents

566
00:31:24,690 --> 00:31:23,200
bob lazar and and you know the reverse

567
00:31:27,270 --> 00:31:24,700
engineering stuff they got from you know

568
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:27,280
talking about area 51 so that got me

569
00:31:31,470 --> 00:31:29,170
really fascinated and then I started

570
00:31:32,910 --> 00:31:31,480
getting into reading about alien

571
00:31:36,390 --> 00:31:32,920
abductions and I was reading all the

572
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:36,400
Budd Hopkins books and then the movie -

573
00:31:39,930 --> 00:31:38,170
comedian came out and that really you

574
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:39,940
know I was you know blown away by all

575
00:31:45,450 --> 00:31:42,250
that and I spent you know years and

576
00:31:48,390 --> 00:31:45,460
years and years educating myself on the

577
00:31:50,190 --> 00:31:48,400
you know et phenomenon and I you know a

578
00:31:52,260 --> 00:31:50,200
lot of videos I watched on you richard

579
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:52,270
hoagland learning about the different

580
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:54,130
artifacts throughout our entire solar

581
00:31:59,760 --> 00:31:55,930
system and just more and more

582
00:32:03,260 --> 00:31:59,770
information I was gathering and I felt

583
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:03,270
like it was my my purpose in life to

584
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:05,890
communicate and bring this edge to this

585
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:08,650
information too late to the public in a

586
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:12,910
more large way so well now uh you know

587
00:32:18,030 --> 00:32:14,530
it says in your bio that you had York's

588
00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:18,040
UFO experience in what was that 2014

589
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:21,760
every thousand or 14 2014 now when you

590
00:32:27,390 --> 00:32:24,130
were a kid I mean had you had any other

591
00:32:29,370 --> 00:32:27,400
kinds of unusual experiences because you

592
00:32:31,950 --> 00:32:29,380
know I we generally find with our guests

593
00:32:33,570 --> 00:32:31,960
on our show that everybody seems to

594
00:32:34,490 --> 00:32:33,580
start with something that happened when

595
00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:34,500
they were a kid

596
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:37,840
yeah I've been able to reverse-engineer

597
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:40,570
my life to understand what happened in

598
00:32:46,650 --> 00:32:44,110
my past as to why it was important

599
00:32:48,270 --> 00:32:46,660
certain things key events did happen

600
00:32:50,970 --> 00:32:48,280
that were the way

601
00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:50,980
getting for me when I was really really

602
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:52,720
unlike we're talking like you know maybe

603
00:32:59,540 --> 00:32:56,530
three or four years old my favorite TV

604
00:33:01,680 --> 00:32:59,550
show is to watch were you know Star Trek

605
00:33:05,310 --> 00:33:01,690
the original original series obviously

606
00:33:08,550 --> 00:33:05,320
space 1999 you know moon base alpha oh

607
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:08,560
yeah and lost in space and all that kind

608
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:10,450
of stuff and I always told my mom with

609
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:14,290
mommy I want to be in space that's where

610
00:33:19,020 --> 00:33:17,050
I belong and I always I've always had

611
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:19,030
this calling like spaces where it was

612
00:33:24,510 --> 00:33:22,000
where I was from like it was like I was

613
00:33:26,580 --> 00:33:24,520
so passionate about it and it felt so

614
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:26,590
comfortable and so home to me and she's

615
00:33:30,930 --> 00:33:28,570
like oh it's so cute he wants to be an

616
00:33:33,510 --> 00:33:30,940
astronaut and be on the moon and was

617
00:33:34,830 --> 00:33:33,520
very kind of taken back like no that's

618
00:33:36,810 --> 00:33:34,840
not what I meant

619
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:36,820
it's is that what I'm supposed to is

620
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:39,130
that what that means here on earth did

621
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:41,410
you want to be an astronaut that's not

622
00:33:44,910 --> 00:33:43,210
what the connection I had as a kid it

623
00:33:48,810 --> 00:33:44,920
was a much deeper connection to space

624
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:48,820
that I had at that much so that was very

625
00:33:53,790 --> 00:33:51,490
significant for me to really remember

626
00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:53,800
this now but I really felt like when I

627
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:55,360
was that young that I had this

628
00:33:59,340 --> 00:33:57,610
connection to the stars like that was

629
00:34:03,690 --> 00:33:59,350
where I belonged or where maybe Ike

630
00:34:05,700 --> 00:34:03,700
that's where I came from so but the real

631
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:05,710
awakening for me of that there was

632
00:34:11,610 --> 00:34:08,290
something wrong on the planet about a

633
00:34:14,399 --> 00:34:11,620
boat you know if there was ETS out there

634
00:34:16,530 --> 00:34:14,409
was and there was like 1976 and in my

635
00:34:18,419 --> 00:34:16,540
doctor's office he had this huge picture

636
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:18,429
book on the moon you know was this big

637
00:34:22,740 --> 00:34:20,649
book was about two inches thick and I

638
00:34:24,690 --> 00:34:22,750
was always gravitated to it to read it

639
00:34:27,570 --> 00:34:24,700
and you know with on the cover had a

640
00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:27,580
picture of a an astronaut it was a high

641
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:29,679
quality resolution picture for the 70s

642
00:34:33,899 --> 00:34:31,690
back then and then a one third of the

643
00:34:35,610 --> 00:34:33,909
book is you know the pictures of the the

644
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:35,620
moon lander and them you know in the

645
00:34:39,930 --> 00:34:37,570
moon the astronauts and stuff but then

646
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:39,940
as you got deeper into the book it was

647
00:34:43,110 --> 00:34:41,770
you know pictures of craters and all

648
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:43,120
pictures of the moon and stuff like that

649
00:34:47,790 --> 00:34:45,490
but the picture colleague went straight

650
00:34:51,060 --> 00:34:47,800
down was completely black-and-white

651
00:34:54,780 --> 00:34:51,070
grainy really bad quality and there was

652
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:54,790
all this airbrushing it was page after

653
00:35:01,650 --> 00:34:58,450
page after page of airbrushing and I'm a

654
00:35:02,010 --> 00:35:01,660
kid I wasn't stupid I know what you know

655
00:35:05,610 --> 00:35:02,020
what

656
00:35:06,870 --> 00:35:05,620
blurred out and I would hold the book up

657
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:06,880
to the light to see if I could see

658
00:35:11,730 --> 00:35:08,530
through the picture to see what they

659
00:35:13,020 --> 00:35:11,740
were covering up you know and or I would

660
00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:13,030
scratch on I'm thinking it was like a

661
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:14,320
scratch-and-sniff book that if you

662
00:35:19,110 --> 00:35:16,210
scratch it all of a sudden what the

663
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:19,120
image would come clearer but nothing and

664
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:20,650
it was the whole rest of the book was

665
00:35:23,700 --> 00:35:22,210
like this and it's like this is

666
00:35:26,010 --> 00:35:23,710
ridiculous what the what the heck I

667
00:35:28,770 --> 00:35:26,020
think were they hiding and then you know

668
00:35:30,750 --> 00:35:28,780
30 years later I'm on YouTube walking

669
00:35:32,670 --> 00:35:30,760
out because I heard these theories about

670
00:35:34,590 --> 00:35:32,680
earlier versions on the mood thinking oh

671
00:35:36,930 --> 00:35:34,600
here comes a conspiracy theorists or a

672
00:35:38,910 --> 00:35:36,940
bunch of crock and I start doing the

673
00:35:41,460 --> 00:35:38,920
research myself and then they start

674
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:41,470
throwing these pictures up and all of a

675
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:43,330
sudden I'm having a flashback ah oh my

676
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:46,330
god I've seen this before I've seen

677
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:48,130
these images where did I seen these

678
00:35:51,660 --> 00:35:49,930
before and then I heard them back to my

679
00:35:56,340 --> 00:35:51,670
child back in the 70s I think frankly

680
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:56,350
realized my god it's all true it is all

681
00:35:59,730 --> 00:35:58,090
true there are alien bases on the moon

682
00:36:02,520 --> 00:35:59,740
and they've been covering it up the

683
00:36:04,830 --> 00:36:02,530
entire time it's just back in the 70s

684
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:04,840
the technology wasn't very good it was

685
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:07,090
horrible I'd love to be able to get a

686
00:36:12,210 --> 00:36:09,450
hold of that book today I tell you oh

687
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:12,220
yeah well I know that there has been you

688
00:36:20,460 --> 00:36:17,250
know like several technicians who worked

689
00:36:23,010 --> 00:36:20,470
for NASA not directly with NASA but you

690
00:36:25,470 --> 00:36:23,020
know like on a you know hired out basis

691
00:36:31,110 --> 00:36:25,480
that has admitted that that was their

692
00:36:33,990 --> 00:36:31,120
job to airbrush and delete these

693
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:34,000
photographs that that showed things that

694
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:36,010
you know they were told you know

695
00:36:43,620 --> 00:36:38,890
couldn't be explained so let's just hide

696
00:36:45,810 --> 00:36:43,630
it yeah that was yeah that was that was

697
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:45,820
kind of like you know my awakening as a

698
00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:47,770
kid and regards to that you know there's

699
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:49,300
something not right here

700
00:36:52,410 --> 00:36:51,370
and you know I always been had a

701
00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:52,420
fascinating with you know

702
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:54,730
extraterrestrials my entire life oh and

703
00:37:00,360 --> 00:36:57,370
also speaking about fascination with

704
00:37:02,010 --> 00:37:00,370
pyramids I have worn a pyramid around my

705
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:02,020
neck since I was 16

706
00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:04,690
so that was significant and I think

707
00:37:09,510 --> 00:37:06,640
that's also part of the you know the

708
00:37:11,580 --> 00:37:09,520
when you start understand our concept of

709
00:37:13,050 --> 00:37:11,590
time is in completely incorrect there's

710
00:37:15,870 --> 00:37:13,060
no past present future there's only

711
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:15,880
all-time and that the the future is

712
00:37:19,530 --> 00:37:17,770
the past as much as the passes right in

713
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:19,540
the future that's why you start to

714
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:21,130
understand how these things all work in

715
00:37:26,430 --> 00:37:22,690
this and when synchronicities come in

716
00:37:29,430 --> 00:37:26,440
place and at all it all makes sense but

717
00:37:32,460 --> 00:37:29,440
yeah what about what about your music I

718
00:37:36,260 --> 00:37:32,470
mean when did you start learning how to

719
00:37:41,340 --> 00:37:36,270
play and I mean what what was your drive

720
00:37:43,620 --> 00:37:41,350
initially well my Drive was really

721
00:37:45,810 --> 00:37:43,630
initially was my cousin introducing my

722
00:37:46,410 --> 00:37:45,820
brother and I to to rush and to Iron

723
00:37:48,690 --> 00:37:46,420
Maiden

724
00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:48,700
mmm mostly particularly to rush and

725
00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:50,560
that's when I really started to become a

726
00:37:55,110 --> 00:37:52,240
serious musician and start to practice

727
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:55,120
and I try I learned pretty much every

728
00:37:59,610 --> 00:37:57,370
rush song that I could you know and back

729
00:38:03,630 --> 00:37:59,620
then the the only the latest album was

730
00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:03,640
signals back in 1986 whatever and so I

731
00:38:09,180 --> 00:38:05,710
learned every single verse song I could

732
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:09,190
so that was my foundation but when my

733
00:38:13,890 --> 00:38:11,410
real Awakening is to who I really am

734
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:13,900
today was in grade 10

735
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:16,090
I was homeroom you know the beginning of

736
00:38:20,580 --> 00:38:19,210
September my my best friend Mike he had

737
00:38:22,620 --> 00:38:20,590
his tape player there and he had these

738
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:22,630
two tapes it was Joe Satriani surfing

739
00:38:26,970 --> 00:38:24,160
with the only and a Joe saturating out

740
00:38:29,460 --> 00:38:26,980
of this earth and Joe said [\h__\h] this

741
00:38:31,980 --> 00:38:29,470
instrumental rock guitarist for in

742
00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:31,990
California mm-hmm and he put them he put

743
00:38:35,730 --> 00:38:33,520
it on he's a check out this guitar

744
00:38:38,220 --> 00:38:35,740
player and I was listening to surfing

745
00:38:41,010 --> 00:38:38,230
with the alien and I was just completely

746
00:38:42,690 --> 00:38:41,020
blown away by what he was doing it was

747
00:38:44,610 --> 00:38:42,700
like oh my god this is the kind of music

748
00:38:46,620 --> 00:38:44,620
that I want to play I mean was

749
00:38:49,020 --> 00:38:46,630
instrumental rock but his guitar we had

750
00:38:51,330 --> 00:38:49,030
such catchy melodies it was just like

751
00:38:53,130 --> 00:38:51,340
this is just amazing and his technique

752
00:38:55,170 --> 00:38:53,140
was incredible the energy and the power

753
00:38:56,460 --> 00:38:55,180
is like this is what I want to be this

754
00:39:00,450 --> 00:38:56,470
is what I want to do from rest of my

755
00:39:03,780 --> 00:39:00,460
life and you know I never lost sight of

756
00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:03,790
that of that that that good that new

757
00:39:08,220 --> 00:39:06,310
inspiration and I spent you know the

758
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:08,230
next in whatever you know decade

759
00:39:13,050 --> 00:39:11,110
whatever practicing and practicing you

760
00:39:15,150 --> 00:39:13,060
know I was the guy you know the kid you

761
00:39:17,010 --> 00:39:15,160
know who didn't you know wasn't chasing

762
00:39:18,810 --> 00:39:17,020
the chicks that was the guy on lunchtime

763
00:39:21,210 --> 00:39:18,820
was going down the music room grabbing a

764
00:39:24,290 --> 00:39:21,220
guitar practicing and you become a

765
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:24,300
better musician and it paid off I mean I

766
00:39:29,610 --> 00:39:27,010
my brother and I we it's kind of funny I

767
00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:29,620
found out years after we graduated that

768
00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:31,510
we became these music legends that

769
00:39:34,890 --> 00:39:33,520
people talked about you know years after

770
00:39:35,460 --> 00:39:34,900
we graduated and I'm like are you

771
00:39:37,110 --> 00:39:35,470
serious

772
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:37,120
oh yeah the yes torella brothers oh yeah

773
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:38,290
they talk to what you guys all the time

774
00:39:44,610 --> 00:39:41,680
so you know we made it we made an impact

775
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:44,620
back then we really did but it wouldn't

776
00:39:51,090 --> 00:39:47,650
be until about 2011 when pyramids on

777
00:39:53,730 --> 00:39:51,100
Mars would come into existence that

778
00:40:00,620 --> 00:39:53,740
would be my musical voice of who I am

779
00:40:04,260 --> 00:40:00,630
now so now do you think that as you were

780
00:40:10,230 --> 00:40:04,270
writing and you know getting ready to do

781
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:10,240
pyramids on Mars because I know a lot of

782
00:40:14,190 --> 00:40:12,490
musicians have said and I know that

783
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:14,200
Grant Gant can't grant Cameron has

784
00:40:20,490 --> 00:40:16,210
talked about this you know do you think

785
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:20,500
that possibly you had an influence from

786
00:40:27,660 --> 00:40:21,370
someplace else

787
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:27,670
I I know I did because my whole goal of

788
00:40:32,370 --> 00:40:30,010
creating pyramids on Mars was I wanted

789
00:40:34,470 --> 00:40:32,380
to write instrumental you know music

790
00:40:37,110 --> 00:40:34,480
similar in histology Oh Satriani but I

791
00:40:38,540 --> 00:40:37,120
also wanted to use that as the catalyst

792
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:38,550
to help teach people about

793
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:41,170
extraterrestrials and their presence

794
00:40:45,510 --> 00:40:43,570
here on earth and the artifacts in the

795
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:45,520
solar system aka the pyramids on Mars

796
00:40:50,430 --> 00:40:48,250
and tie it all together to help people

797
00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:50,440
realize you know and understand that

798
00:40:53,310 --> 00:40:51,730
this isn't the science this is not

799
00:40:55,650 --> 00:40:53,320
science fiction this is this is real

800
00:41:00,960 --> 00:40:55,660
this is true and people need to be

801
00:41:03,510 --> 00:41:00,970
awakened to our star nation family so I

802
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:03,520
always felt like deep down side that it

803
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:08,410
was I was always meant to do this and I

804
00:41:12,420 --> 00:41:09,850
was frustrated for years saying guys

805
00:41:14,700 --> 00:41:12,430
just come land and tell me what to do I

806
00:41:16,410 --> 00:41:14,710
will I will help this is I want to help

807
00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:16,420
I want to hear and today I never

808
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:17,920
realized that that was actually always

809
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:21,970
the plan when you know August 21st 2014

810
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:24,250
an interdimensional craft you know flew

811
00:41:29,490 --> 00:41:26,890
within 100 yards of me across my

812
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:29,500
backyard and then opened a portal and

813
00:41:33,870 --> 00:41:32,410
left and then for the from there on all

814
00:41:35,580 --> 00:41:33,880
everything just you know all these

815
00:41:38,930 --> 00:41:35,590
synchronicity started taking place and

816
00:41:41,700 --> 00:41:38,940
all this crazy you know ESP and

817
00:41:43,140 --> 00:41:41,710
everything that's happened to me now you

818
00:41:44,910 --> 00:41:43,150
know I always haven't put a disc

819
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:44,920
when I have radio interview no because I

820
00:41:47,670 --> 00:41:46,090
said you're gonna hear things that

821
00:41:51,660 --> 00:41:47,680
you're gonna say that guy is full of

822
00:41:53,370 --> 00:41:51,670
[\h__\h] there's no way that what he's

823
00:41:55,230 --> 00:41:53,380
telling me is true no one can have that

824
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:55,240
many crazy things that just make no

825
00:42:01,050 --> 00:41:57,610
complete sense everything I say it's I

826
00:42:04,770 --> 00:42:01,060
never lie it's true Ron don't listen i

827
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:04,780
bruce i recently did a book the matrix

828
00:42:08,940 --> 00:42:08,050
of philip k dick and the synchronicities

829
00:42:11,730 --> 00:42:08,950
of tim buckley

830
00:42:13,740 --> 00:42:11,740
filled almost 400 pages with stories

831
00:42:15,210 --> 00:42:13,750
about philip k dick who believes that

832
00:42:20,070 --> 00:42:15,220
we're living in a computer simulation

833
00:42:22,020 --> 00:42:20,080
and all of my synchronicities one more

834
00:42:24,930 --> 00:42:22,030
crazy than the other i'm not talking

835
00:42:27,630 --> 00:42:24,940
about some you know thinking of someone

836
00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:27,640
in the phone calls you know they call

837
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:29,730
them the phone the next day or our stuff

838
00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:33,130
as mundane is that I'm talking yeah I

839
00:42:38,220 --> 00:42:35,200
won't go into detail here but there you

840
00:42:40,650 --> 00:42:38,230
can watch the episodes on YouTube which

841
00:42:44,070 --> 00:42:40,660
I've discussed some of this it's uncanny

842
00:42:46,650 --> 00:42:44,080
this how synchronicities play such a big

843
00:42:49,530 --> 00:42:46,660
part in the in the UFO and outer space

844
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:49,540
phenomena the synchronicities for me

845
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:51,610
happened on a weekly basis I'm used to

846
00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:54,010
them like it's it's part of it's part of

847
00:42:58,470 --> 00:42:56,110
its as much as brushing teeth because

848
00:43:00,090 --> 00:42:58,480
I'm so in tune to the universe in my

849
00:43:03,050 --> 00:43:00,100
consciousness as a complexity

850
00:43:06,180 --> 00:43:03,060
can you tell can you tell us a couple of

851
00:43:10,650 --> 00:43:06,190
instances that really stand out oh yeah

852
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:10,660
for sure I mean the first one was after

853
00:43:16,170 --> 00:43:14,170
my UFO was sighting in August 21st 2014

854
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:16,180
I filled out a you know report to MUFON

855
00:43:20,910 --> 00:43:18,730
having her back to them and then it was

856
00:43:24,270 --> 00:43:20,920
almost you know about eight months later

857
00:43:26,910 --> 00:43:24,280
when the first eighth alien cosmic Expo

858
00:43:29,430 --> 00:43:26,920
in Brantford Ontario was taking place

859
00:43:31,260 --> 00:43:29,440
and I wasn't really excited to check

860
00:43:34,770 --> 00:43:31,270
this out and you know I looked online to

861
00:43:36,510 --> 00:43:34,780
see who was gonna be presenting that I

862
00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:36,520
saw Stanton Friedman was gonna be there

863
00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:38,110
Paul Hellyer and I'm like oh my god

864
00:43:43,230 --> 00:43:40,240
Stanton Friedman I know him and then it

865
00:43:45,930 --> 00:43:43,240
was grand camera and they were really

866
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:45,940
highlighting grant Cameron as a very

867
00:43:52,590 --> 00:43:48,010
huge best guest speaker and then when I

868
00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:52,600
saw his presentation I I was shocked and

869
00:43:56,790 --> 00:43:54,400
the hairs of my arm stood up my jaw

870
00:43:59,100 --> 00:43:56,800
dropped and it was aliens and music

871
00:44:01,380 --> 00:43:59,110
Asians and how extraterrestrials are

872
00:44:04,260 --> 00:44:01,390
contacting musicians to raise frequency

873
00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:04,270
and consciousness on the planet I'm like

874
00:44:10,620 --> 00:44:08,800
oh my god this is about me there's that

875
00:44:13,770 --> 00:44:10,630
I'm part of this there's something going

876
00:44:16,530 --> 00:44:13,780
on here Kevin I have to I have to tell

877
00:44:22,770 --> 00:44:16,540
you it's about me too and I don't know

878
00:44:24,930 --> 00:44:22,780
if you read the book by Michaels and I

879
00:44:26,070 --> 00:44:24,940
said oh yes I actually had the Rodian

880
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:26,080
yeah yeah

881
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:27,810
alien rock the extra-terrestrial

882
00:44:31,890 --> 00:44:29,530
connection

883
00:44:34,350 --> 00:44:31,900
yes fascinating and I've been on the

884
00:44:37,110 --> 00:44:34,360
radio several times with Grant Cameron

885
00:44:40,170 --> 00:44:37,120
and we just talked on the phone and he

886
00:44:42,780 --> 00:44:40,180
did a presentation where he talked about

887
00:44:46,170 --> 00:44:42,790
me and my music and it that it seems

888
00:44:48,740 --> 00:44:46,180
like you and I are almost on the same

889
00:44:54,330 --> 00:44:51,690
you know songs come through me and

890
00:44:57,870 --> 00:44:54,340
people say well how did you write that I

891
00:45:00,390 --> 00:44:57,880
tell him I don't know and I met John

892
00:45:04,170 --> 00:45:00,400
Lennon once at Harry Nelson's house

893
00:45:09,810 --> 00:45:04,180
Harry Nelson and I wrote in a little

894
00:45:12,690 --> 00:45:09,820
office on Selma and vine in Hollywood we

895
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:12,700
were hired by a publisher and then he

896
00:45:19,020 --> 00:45:15,490
you know later met John Lennon and John

897
00:45:21,570 --> 00:45:19,030
came over and was visiting him and I got

898
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:21,580
to meet him at Harry's house at a party

899
00:45:27,870 --> 00:45:24,970
and I played him one of my songs on her

900
00:45:31,950 --> 00:45:27,880
way to Hana that mentioned seeing a UFO

901
00:45:35,610 --> 00:45:31,960
on Maui and right away he started

902
00:45:39,210 --> 00:45:35,620
talking and said what inspired that and

903
00:45:43,470 --> 00:45:39,220
so we got to go in a room by herself

904
00:45:45,990 --> 00:45:43,480
away from the 30 or so guests and he

905
00:45:49,110 --> 00:45:46,000
said isn't songwriting strange and I

906
00:45:51,630 --> 00:45:49,120
said yeah it really is I said I never

907
00:45:55,260 --> 00:45:51,640
know when something is going to come

908
00:45:57,930 --> 00:45:55,270
through and he said yeah you get this

909
00:46:01,290 --> 00:45:57,940
feeling and I said yeah and if I don't

910
00:46:04,770 --> 00:46:01,300
record it or write it down right away it

911
00:46:07,740 --> 00:46:04,780
can just like disappear and John looked

912
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:07,750
at me and he said it's automatic writing

913
00:46:14,410 --> 00:46:11,210
world is it has said we're just the best

914
00:46:17,829 --> 00:46:14,420
so it just comes through us and all of

915
00:46:20,950 --> 00:46:17,839
my best songs have been written that way

916
00:46:23,650 --> 00:46:20,960
and they're usually in about 15 minutes

917
00:46:26,620 --> 00:46:23,660
and he said all the songs that he wrote

918
00:46:28,780 --> 00:46:26,630
in the Beatles were like that and he

919
00:46:31,390 --> 00:46:28,790
looked at me with a smile and I'll never

920
00:46:34,359 --> 00:46:31,400
forget this it's like him blazoned into

921
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:34,369
my brain I didn't write any of those

922
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:37,690
songs in the Beatles they came to me

923
00:46:42,940 --> 00:46:39,970
yeah

924
00:46:45,370 --> 00:46:42,950
I remember one time I remember one time

925
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:45,380
I was visiting with the Chambers

926
00:46:49,569 --> 00:46:46,730
Brothers you know time has come today

927
00:46:52,420 --> 00:46:49,579
and got talking about all you know

928
00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:52,430
strange stuff like this and I think it

929
00:46:58,240 --> 00:46:56,089
was a Joe a Chamber said you know my

930
00:47:00,579 --> 00:46:58,250
brother and I we were writing music in

931
00:47:03,250 --> 00:47:00,589
different parts of the house and when we

932
00:47:06,220 --> 00:47:03,260
met later on in the you know the dining

933
00:47:07,839 --> 00:47:06,230
area we compared our music and it turned

934
00:47:12,130 --> 00:47:07,849
out we were writing the same lyrics at

935
00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:12,140
the same time so you talk about you talk

936
00:47:17,140 --> 00:47:15,440
about automatic writing huh I have some

937
00:47:18,789 --> 00:47:17,150
more information in regards to this this

938
00:47:20,710 --> 00:47:18,799
phenomenon too because you're absolutely

939
00:47:21,490 --> 00:47:20,720
right Merle I know exactly what you're

940
00:47:23,530 --> 00:47:21,500
talking about

941
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:23,540
and the reason is and this is gonna be

942
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:25,970
this is quite fascinating because I'm

943
00:47:30,460 --> 00:47:27,770
Kevin I'm gonna have to hold you there

944
00:47:33,130 --> 00:47:30,470
because we are coming up to our top of

945
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:33,140
the hour break and we will continue this

946
00:47:36,490 --> 00:47:34,970
conversation this fascinating

947
00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:36,500
conversation I don't want to go to the

948
00:47:40,540 --> 00:47:38,569
break that we have to on exploring the

949
00:47:50,650 --> 00:47:40,550
bizarre so stay tuned

950
00:47:57,610 --> 00:47:55,160
explode the bazaars your e-ticket ride

951
00:48:00,890 --> 00:47:57,620
into the world of the paranormal

952
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:00,900
strap yourself in as we traverse the

953
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:05,210
universe exploring the unexplained UFO s

954
00:48:10,700 --> 00:48:08,330
ghosts Lost Worlds

955
00:48:14,540 --> 00:48:10,710
cryptozoology as well as other

956
00:48:19,700 --> 00:48:14,550
dimensions it's time to take back the

957
00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:19,710
night now your electrifying hosts of

958
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:22,800
exploring the bizarre Timothy Begley and

959
00:48:44,300 --> 00:48:40,370
team sports member Kevin Estrela but

960
00:48:47,150 --> 00:48:44,310
it's me and this being a interstellar

961
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:47,160
party mood what was the name of that

962
00:48:52,790 --> 00:48:50,250
track Kevin that was the that's pyramids

963
00:48:54,590 --> 00:48:52,800
on Mars actually okay I taught that boy

964
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:54,600
I want to make sure I go and say it

965
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:55,770
except they down so you'd be like no you

966
00:49:00,470 --> 00:48:57,650
fool

967
00:49:03,170 --> 00:49:00,480
that's a great song to play live yeah

968
00:49:06,530 --> 00:49:03,180
yeah you know did we always enjoy having

969
00:49:09,050 --> 00:49:06,540
a rock and roll at night every year

970
00:49:11,540 --> 00:49:09,060
every few months I hear on the on the

971
00:49:13,310 --> 00:49:11,550
show you know oh yeah one of my careers

972
00:49:16,790 --> 00:49:13,320
on and off is also bad like I say

973
00:49:19,610 --> 00:49:16,800
roading music and and very involved with

974
00:49:22,550 --> 00:49:19,620
it in one way or the other over the

975
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:22,560
years Cameron can't take of life without

976
00:49:28,310 --> 00:49:26,490
a rock and rock and roll either you know

977
00:49:31,370 --> 00:49:28,320
I mean there's so many stories I've

978
00:49:33,860 --> 00:49:31,380
collected over the years I I remember

979
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:33,870
one time meeting a geezer butler who was

980
00:49:39,050 --> 00:49:36,090
and well I guess the bass player in

981
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:39,060
floor for a black slab Sabbath well he

982
00:49:43,790 --> 00:49:40,530
had an incident if I remember the

983
00:49:45,470 --> 00:49:43,800
details that correctly where he was

984
00:49:48,530 --> 00:49:45,480
living and maybe it was somewhere near

985
00:49:51,590 --> 00:49:48,540
area 51 at scene and a UFO came over the

986
00:49:54,170 --> 00:49:51,600
place where he was residing in and just

987
00:49:57,740 --> 00:49:54,180
about pulled the shingles off the top of

988
00:50:00,110 --> 00:49:57,750
the top of the house so that that's a

989
00:50:03,970 --> 00:50:00,120
pretty experience and of course the

990
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:03,980
Moody Blues even had this incident

991
00:50:08,570 --> 00:50:06,930
supposedly an alien there are altered

992
00:50:10,460 --> 00:50:08,580
terrestrial I call because I don't know

993
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:10,470
where the front came into the recording

994
00:50:16,070 --> 00:50:12,210
studio while they were doing a session

995
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:16,080
and pressed this end up hand or whatever

996
00:50:22,310 --> 00:50:19,650
it was a limb let's put it that way up

997
00:50:25,220 --> 00:50:22,320
against the glass partition and I think

998
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:25,230
even left some kind of marking on the on

999
00:50:31,340 --> 00:50:29,610
the the the glass there you know there's

1000
00:50:32,930 --> 00:50:31,350
one story now that just came to my

1001
00:50:36,140 --> 00:50:32,940
attention and I don't know why this

1002
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:36,150
didn't get a little bit more media a

1003
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:39,650
play it's from I think it's a British

1004
00:50:48,020 --> 00:50:42,530
publication called bull I'm sure and

1005
00:50:51,710 --> 00:50:48,030
it's dated March 27th 2017 it says the

1006
00:50:54,350 --> 00:50:51,720
kinks Dave Davis is the interview on the

1007
00:50:58,100 --> 00:50:54,360
band's best riffs and communicating with

1008
00:51:00,830 --> 00:50:58,110
aliens and it's by David David marshy

1009
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:00,840
and I'll just read you the two of

1010
00:51:08,570 --> 00:51:04,410
questions and the quotes from Dave

1011
00:51:10,790 --> 00:51:08,580
Davies from the kinks the question is is

1012
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:10,800
it based on any experiences you've had

1013
00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:14,010
you've claimed to have seen UFOs right

1014
00:51:19,490 --> 00:51:17,250
yeah I have I've had several experiences

1015
00:51:22,580 --> 00:51:19,500
seeing UFOs it was really interesting I

1016
00:51:25,700 --> 00:51:22,590
saw them in North Devon in England

1017
00:51:28,820 --> 00:51:25,710
lights and sightings in the sky then

1018
00:51:32,210 --> 00:51:28,830
when I started to dig deeper into my

1019
00:51:34,910 --> 00:51:32,220
experience I understood I was also

1020
00:51:37,850 --> 00:51:34,920
getting communications psychic

1021
00:51:39,950 --> 00:51:37,860
impressions from aliens and the second

1022
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:39,960
question how did you know it was aliens

1023
00:51:45,020 --> 00:51:42,690
and not just you having a brain blip or

1024
00:51:48,770 --> 00:51:45,030
something I know the plate brain blip is

1025
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:48,780
but okay I'm and and dave says I I'm

1026
00:51:55,490 --> 00:51:51,290
sure there are many people in the world

1027
00:51:58,460 --> 00:51:55,500
who can explain it better than I can

1028
00:52:01,190 --> 00:51:58,470
you have an experience with a UFO and

1029
00:52:04,130 --> 00:52:01,200
you keep these feelings and then it gets

1030
00:52:07,070 --> 00:52:04,140
into your subconscious and

1031
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:07,080
superconscious when I investigated what

1032
00:52:12,260 --> 00:52:09,210
these feelings could be when I got

1033
00:52:16,850 --> 00:52:12,270
really into ufology I could have sworn I

1034
00:52:17,750 --> 00:52:16,860
was having connections with the dog star

1035
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:17,760
with Syria

1036
00:52:23,450 --> 00:52:21,210
Sirius has been deep has deep

1037
00:52:27,170 --> 00:52:23,460
connections with earth over time there's

1038
00:52:31,610 --> 00:52:27,180
been contact that developed into did you

1039
00:52:33,170 --> 00:52:31,620
ever see in the film Harvey okay and

1040
00:52:35,900 --> 00:52:33,180
then they go on to some other subjects

1041
00:52:38,450 --> 00:52:35,910
but that's the the part of the interview

1042
00:52:40,220 --> 00:52:38,460
and the vulture that has to do with a

1043
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:40,230
Davies of the Kings and who's

1044
00:52:46,610 --> 00:52:43,890
communicating with aliens well I like to

1045
00:52:49,310 --> 00:52:46,620
elaborate more on exactly what's going

1046
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:49,320
on with this phenomenon because Morel

1047
00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:51,330
was talking when he had his shot would

1048
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:53,760
talk with John Lennon talking about how

1049
00:52:56,420 --> 00:52:55,050
the songs just seemed to write

1050
00:52:59,330 --> 00:52:56,430
themselves and they just they're just

1051
00:53:02,570 --> 00:52:59,340
pulled out of don't know where I know

1052
00:53:03,740 --> 00:53:02,580
exactly what's going on I can explain

1053
00:53:06,020 --> 00:53:03,750
what's what what this is all about

1054
00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:06,030
because you have to understand with my

1055
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:09,510
background I I communicate with

1056
00:53:14,180 --> 00:53:12,330
extraterrestrials on a daily basis

1057
00:53:15,620 --> 00:53:14,190
how do you do that well it's quite easy

1058
00:53:18,590 --> 00:53:15,630
because there's a couple groups who are

1059
00:53:20,690 --> 00:53:18,600
actually using Twitter and a particular

1060
00:53:23,420 --> 00:53:20,700
group who I'm very very close with if

1061
00:53:25,850 --> 00:53:23,430
you go to at Sandy wisdom there is a

1062
00:53:26,540 --> 00:53:25,860
group of Zetas you know people call them

1063
00:53:27,830 --> 00:53:26,550
the greys

1064
00:53:29,750 --> 00:53:27,840
but they don't like being called that

1065
00:53:31,720 --> 00:53:29,760
it's like calling a black guy at the

1066
00:53:34,790 --> 00:53:31,730
n-word you know it's that's very rude

1067
00:53:36,140 --> 00:53:34,800
but they're from the planet pontal which

1068
00:53:38,750 --> 00:53:36,150
is the fifth planet orbiting we're at

1069
00:53:41,330 --> 00:53:38,760
Zeta Reticuli there's a the the four

1070
00:53:44,510 --> 00:53:41,340
main ones as a till comes Rudy radar and

1071
00:53:47,210 --> 00:53:44,520
teeny and they are they reside in a base

1072
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:47,220
in Albuquerque underneath the Sandia

1073
00:53:52,100 --> 00:53:50,130
mountain and it's sue Walker who is a

1074
00:53:54,500 --> 00:53:52,110
professional telepath picked up on them

1075
00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:54,510
by accident one day and Tilikum

1076
00:53:58,490 --> 00:53:56,250
introduced himself and over a period of

1077
00:54:00,260 --> 00:53:58,500
several years developed a friendship and

1078
00:54:03,500 --> 00:54:00,270
now sue Walker does alter all their

1079
00:54:05,930 --> 00:54:03,510
tweeting for them and it's 100% real

1080
00:54:08,510 --> 00:54:05,940
I've actually visited sue Walker in

1081
00:54:10,100 --> 00:54:08,520
Albuquerque back in December I saw radar

1082
00:54:12,530 --> 00:54:10,110
in my peripheral vision I've had

1083
00:54:15,470 --> 00:54:12,540
telepathic communication with radar and

1084
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:15,480
in fact actually I was visited by their

1085
00:54:22,970 --> 00:54:18,930
their group three weeks ago I had a

1086
00:54:24,830 --> 00:54:22,980
visitation and they actually performed a

1087
00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:24,840
medical procedure on me and gave me an

1088
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:26,880
upgrade but I'm not going to talk about

1089
00:54:31,069 --> 00:54:28,170
that right now so I want to talk about

1090
00:54:34,339 --> 00:54:31,079
is the music part we max the me

1091
00:54:36,709 --> 00:54:34,349
a teeny she's here at tea and her

1092
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:36,719
primary directive here on this planet is

1093
00:54:44,769 --> 00:54:41,130
to teach telepathy and Syl Walker with

1094
00:54:48,739 --> 00:54:44,779
the help of teeny they released the

1095
00:54:51,799 --> 00:54:48,749
telepathy 101 primer so you can go to

1096
00:54:54,140 --> 00:54:51,809
official first contact comm and you can

1097
00:54:56,900 --> 00:54:54,150
download the official T that the

1098
00:54:58,459 --> 00:54:56,910
telepathy primer for free and it's to

1099
00:55:03,069 --> 00:54:58,469
help you develop your telepathy

1100
00:55:05,599 --> 00:55:03,079
now to understand telepathy all start

1101
00:55:09,709 --> 00:55:05,609
majority of star nations that's how they

1102
00:55:11,630 --> 00:55:09,719
communicate is telepathically okay and I

1103
00:55:14,269 --> 00:55:11,640
have had mutton I've had a lot of

1104
00:55:15,890 --> 00:55:14,279
telepathic experiences many of them and

1105
00:55:17,749 --> 00:55:15,900
someone was gonna freakin blow your mind

1106
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:17,759
especially what happened two weeks ago

1107
00:55:22,579 --> 00:55:21,839
after they upgraded me but to understand

1108
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:22,589
telepathy

1109
00:55:29,630 --> 00:55:27,690
on an alpha wavelength so that's when

1110
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:29,640
your brainwaves are just slightly slower

1111
00:55:34,999 --> 00:55:32,130
this happens to be the ultimate the

1112
00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:35,009
primary state that musicians are in when

1113
00:55:39,499 --> 00:55:37,440
they are improvising or being creative

1114
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:39,509
this is the creative state it's the

1115
00:55:46,370 --> 00:55:42,930
highest high state of mind of telepathy

1116
00:55:48,349 --> 00:55:46,380
and this explains why so many musicians

1117
00:55:50,660 --> 00:55:48,359
when they are in the creative state

1118
00:55:52,789 --> 00:55:50,670
they're in this zone this timeless zone

1119
00:55:55,279 --> 00:55:52,799
where the music is flowing through them

1120
00:55:57,289 --> 00:55:55,289
their eagle mind is shut down the music

1121
00:55:59,779 --> 00:55:57,299
is just coming to them and it's

1122
00:56:02,180 --> 00:55:59,789
expressed this is because you are

1123
00:56:06,380 --> 00:56:02,190
tapping into the collective

1124
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:06,390
consciousness and what's Heaney has told

1125
00:56:12,469 --> 00:56:09,690
me so many times Kevin go to the edge

1126
00:56:15,410 --> 00:56:12,479
the black and write the music that you

1127
00:56:17,420 --> 00:56:15,420
hear so you can if you can picture that

1128
00:56:19,279 --> 00:56:17,430
you're you go to the edge the black of

1129
00:56:20,839 --> 00:56:19,289
the universe you turn around and you

1130
00:56:23,150 --> 00:56:20,849
play that's where that's where you want

1131
00:56:26,059 --> 00:56:23,160
to be when you're when you work when you

1132
00:56:29,420 --> 00:56:26,069
write music you are just at the edge of

1133
00:56:31,969 --> 00:56:29,430
the black and you are tuning all the all

1134
00:56:34,699 --> 00:56:31,979
the entire universe through you and the

1135
00:56:37,209 --> 00:56:34,709
music expresses through your spirit and

1136
00:56:40,339 --> 00:56:37,219
soul your connection to creator source

1137
00:56:42,620 --> 00:56:40,349
your individual nosov

1138
00:56:44,529 --> 00:56:42,630
that's when you let go of your ego the

1139
00:56:46,870 --> 00:56:44,539
music flows and it just flows

1140
00:56:48,819 --> 00:56:46,880
right through naturally this has

1141
00:56:51,159 --> 00:56:48,829
happened to me on several occasions my

1142
00:56:53,109 --> 00:56:51,169
music I never feel like I write it it

1143
00:56:54,909 --> 00:56:53,119
always feels like it's already there and

1144
00:56:56,559 --> 00:56:54,919
I'm just like the orchestra who's like

1145
00:56:58,150 --> 00:56:56,569
it's kind of like I always describe it

1146
00:56:59,409 --> 00:56:58,160
like a you know colored by numbers book

1147
00:57:01,659 --> 00:56:59,419
that you know the kids have already they

1148
00:57:04,179 --> 00:57:01,669
yield that one equals red and the two

1149
00:57:05,589 --> 00:57:04,189
equals you know blue and all of a sudden

1150
00:57:07,959 --> 00:57:05,599
you finished coloring the picture goes

1151
00:57:08,949 --> 00:57:07,969
oh oh it's a flower you know and that's

1152
00:57:10,449 --> 00:57:08,959
kind of how it feels like when I'm

1153
00:57:12,219 --> 00:57:10,459
writing music it's like obviously this

1154
00:57:14,140 --> 00:57:12,229
goes here this goes here this Rajon

1155
00:57:15,549 --> 00:57:14,150
supposed to go here this guitar supposed

1156
00:57:18,549 --> 00:57:15,559
to do here the bass supposed to play it

1157
00:57:21,489 --> 00:57:18,559
so the song is done oh well that's cool

1158
00:57:24,669 --> 00:57:21,499
and you move on but it gets even more

1159
00:57:26,140 --> 00:57:24,679
bizarre than this grant Cameron has a

1160
00:57:28,749 --> 00:57:26,150
new book that's being released it's

1161
00:57:30,819 --> 00:57:28,759
actually going to be available in print

1162
00:57:32,049 --> 00:57:30,829
at the Ozark Conference in two weeks

1163
00:57:34,150 --> 00:57:32,059
which I'm going to be attending to

1164
00:57:36,039 --> 00:57:34,160
anybody's gonna be there at Eureka

1165
00:57:39,969 --> 00:57:36,049
Springs I'll be at the Ozark Conference

1166
00:57:42,839 --> 00:57:39,979
I would love to meet you and several of

1167
00:57:46,839 --> 00:57:42,849
my cases are documented in this book

1168
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:46,849
particularly one song called dream

1169
00:57:53,979 --> 00:57:48,650
division which is a first song on my

1170
00:57:57,370 --> 00:57:53,989
second CD echo cosmic I cannot really

1171
00:58:00,130 --> 00:57:57,380
claim that I wrote this song because it

1172
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:00,140
was given to me in a dream literally I

1173
00:58:05,259 --> 00:58:03,650
had this dream where I'm watching it's

1174
00:58:07,749 --> 00:58:05,269
like an empty like I'm watching TV on

1175
00:58:09,699 --> 00:58:07,759
MTV and this MTV dude is interviewing

1176
00:58:11,499 --> 00:58:09,709
Joe Satriani who's sitting at a console

1177
00:58:12,819 --> 00:58:11,509
saying hey I heard your work on a new

1178
00:58:14,799 --> 00:58:12,829
album right now is there anything you

1179
00:58:16,659 --> 00:58:14,809
can play for us like he's like oh yeah

1180
00:58:18,399 --> 00:58:16,669
actually I got a couple of bed tracks of

1181
00:58:19,959 --> 00:58:18,409
this new song we're working on and they

1182
00:58:21,159 --> 00:58:19,969
started he puts on this you know puts on

1183
00:58:23,199 --> 00:58:21,169
the music and he's doing some

1184
00:58:25,059 --> 00:58:23,209
adjustments to the bard and all of a

1185
00:58:27,009 --> 00:58:25,069
sudden dream divisions playing and I'm

1186
00:58:29,049 --> 00:58:27,019
thinking this sounds really cool I wish

1187
00:58:30,159 --> 00:58:29,059
I could write something like this and I

1188
00:58:32,349 --> 00:58:30,169
realized wait a second

1189
00:58:35,499 --> 00:58:32,359
this song doesn't exist he never wrote

1190
00:58:38,829 --> 00:58:35,509
this I wake myself up go down the studio

1191
00:58:41,649 --> 00:58:38,839
and I start tracking out the song and

1192
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:41,659
then that was it there was no I didn't

1193
00:58:45,699 --> 00:58:42,890
write this song and there was no

1194
00:58:47,979 --> 00:58:45,709
conscious effort to the song that was

1195
00:58:49,539 --> 00:58:47,989
written it was literally is like if you

1196
00:58:51,099 --> 00:58:49,549
went and turn on your radio listen to a

1197
00:58:52,870 --> 00:58:51,109
song somebody turns to you says oh yeah

1198
00:58:55,029 --> 00:58:52,880
by the way that song doesn't exist so

1199
00:58:56,949 --> 00:58:55,039
that's your G that's a free one that's

1200
00:58:58,299 --> 00:58:56,959
exactly the experience I had I didn't

1201
00:59:02,049 --> 00:58:58,309
write it I

1202
00:59:05,199 --> 00:59:02,059
citizen righted I had another dream I

1203
00:59:07,630 --> 00:59:05,209
was back at last but last just January

1204
00:59:10,989 --> 00:59:07,640
and it was I had this dream this this is

1205
00:59:15,130 --> 00:59:10,999
even more bizarre so I'm a huge fan of

1206
00:59:17,229 --> 00:59:15,140
the band tool and and I had this dream

1207
00:59:20,739 --> 00:59:17,239
where I was in this tool cover band and

1208
00:59:22,209 --> 00:59:20,749
we were called Veritas now keep in mind

1209
00:59:23,559 --> 00:59:22,219
I don't even know what at that time I

1210
00:59:25,989 --> 00:59:23,569
didn't even know what very just meant

1211
00:59:27,759 --> 00:59:25,999
and I just remember seeing the album

1212
00:59:29,949 --> 00:59:27,769
cover which is a four of us members it's

1213
00:59:32,259 --> 00:59:29,959
kind of like this black image of her

1214
00:59:33,939 --> 00:59:32,269
faces half her faces was electrified and

1215
00:59:36,130 --> 00:59:33,949
this is an album we put it there was a

1216
00:59:38,620 --> 00:59:36,140
whole bunch of tulle covers apparently

1217
00:59:40,839 --> 00:59:38,630
and I'm listening to this and the song

1218
00:59:43,779 --> 00:59:40,849
comes on as like he got sticks got this

1219
00:59:48,519 --> 00:59:43,789
crazy you know off-time beat that damp

1220
00:59:50,049 --> 00:59:48,529
but damp but that it was really you know

1221
00:59:51,849 --> 00:59:50,059
had a synchronistic thing to it and the

1222
00:59:53,559 --> 00:59:51,859
drums and all those crazy stuff and I'm

1223
00:59:54,489 --> 00:59:53,569
thinking this song is his to rock and

1224
00:59:56,499 --> 00:59:54,499
this is just amazing

1225
00:59:59,799 --> 00:59:56,509
and then they finally realized that it

1226
01:00:01,599 --> 00:59:59,809
was apparently was his new tool song but

1227
01:00:02,349 --> 01:00:01,609
they never wrote it because it's I never

1228
01:00:04,900 --> 01:00:02,359
heard it before

1229
01:00:07,239 --> 01:00:04,910
once again I wake myself up here run

1230
01:00:09,789 --> 01:00:07,249
downstairs and I start tracking out this

1231
01:00:12,219 --> 01:00:09,799
song that never existed is like this it

1232
01:00:13,089 --> 01:00:12,229
was given to me in a dream and this is

1233
01:00:18,069 --> 01:00:13,099
how it happens

1234
01:00:20,469 --> 01:00:18,079
basically I'm channeling music that's

1235
01:00:22,599 --> 01:00:20,479
right that's amazing it's meeting well

1236
01:00:28,419 --> 01:00:22,609
okay let's let's bring a marrow into

1237
01:00:33,519 --> 01:00:28,429
this now Merrill you have your signals

1238
01:00:37,839 --> 01:00:33,529
from Malibu album do you want to tell us

1239
01:00:40,660 --> 01:00:37,849
about the genesis of that piece and the

1240
01:00:42,849 --> 01:00:40,670
songs on there which by the way I love

1241
01:00:47,469 --> 01:00:42,859
that one that is I keep that one on

1242
01:00:49,660 --> 01:00:47,479
rotation practically every day well I'd

1243
01:00:51,969 --> 01:00:49,670
like to just make a quick comment about

1244
01:00:56,439 --> 01:00:51,979
what Kevin was just talking about I've

1245
01:00:59,199 --> 01:00:56,449
written three songs from dreams and woke

1246
01:01:01,719 --> 01:00:59,209
up and heard the song in my head

1247
01:01:05,279 --> 01:01:01,729
completely finished and went into my

1248
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:05,289
recording studio and just put it down on

1249
01:01:11,590 --> 01:01:09,170
a tape sometimes I just hum it into a

1250
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:11,600
machine and write some notes and stuff

1251
01:01:17,170 --> 01:01:14,450
down so I don't forget it but I've

1252
01:01:20,770 --> 01:01:17,180
written three songs that I heard in a

1253
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:20,780
dream just just like that the same way

1254
01:01:28,570 --> 01:01:25,210
he explained it so now do you think that

1255
01:01:33,220 --> 01:01:28,580
that these songs are coming to you from

1256
01:01:36,310 --> 01:01:33,230
a different source or from yourself you

1257
01:01:39,250 --> 01:01:36,320
know some somewhere either that that

1258
01:01:41,550 --> 01:01:39,260
side of your brain that that keeps quiet

1259
01:01:44,980 --> 01:01:41,560
but is constantly talking to you or

1260
01:01:48,730 --> 01:01:44,990
yourself possibly you know in you know

1261
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:48,740
another world in another place could be

1262
01:01:55,750 --> 01:01:51,650
my sister gave me an astrology book and

1263
01:01:58,980 --> 01:01:55,760
said Merle look at this you know your

1264
01:02:01,990 --> 01:01:58,990
astrology here on the Capricorn and and

1265
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:02,000
see your birthdate here it says you're

1266
01:02:09,940 --> 01:02:07,010
from the planet mu Sagittarius hmm and I

1267
01:02:13,270 --> 01:02:09,950
was also you know enthralled with the

1268
01:02:18,490 --> 01:02:13,280
theory of the lost continent of MU and

1269
01:02:20,290 --> 01:02:18,500
that is why I moved to Maui but you were

1270
01:02:24,420 --> 01:02:20,300
talking about the signals from Malibu

1271
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:24,430
those signals were sent to me indirectly

1272
01:02:31,180 --> 01:02:28,730
through Michael Luckman that wrote the

1273
01:02:34,540 --> 01:02:31,190
book hilly and rocked the

1274
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:34,550
extra-terrestrial connection well he was

1275
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:39,770
in kinetic connection with Emmett he had

1276
01:02:44,650 --> 01:02:41,810
been talking to him who was the old

1277
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:44,660
radio operator that lived up in the

1278
01:02:51,190 --> 01:02:48,290
mountains of Malibu and one night he was

1279
01:02:54,550 --> 01:02:51,200
talking to somebody on his ham radio in

1280
01:02:58,210 --> 01:02:54,560
Australia and when they went off the air

1281
01:03:00,640 --> 01:02:58,220
he went slightly off the frequency and

1282
01:03:03,550 --> 01:03:00,650
he started picking up these very strange

1283
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:03,560
signals and he was in the second world

1284
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:07,490
war in deciphering where the Japanese

1285
01:03:13,630 --> 01:03:10,130
were broadcasting from on different

1286
01:03:16,510 --> 01:03:13,640
islands and atolls was his specialty and

1287
01:03:17,710 --> 01:03:16,520
he he went this is nothing I've ever

1288
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:17,720
heard before

1289
01:03:25,650 --> 01:03:22,250
so he recorded it and then Michael told

1290
01:03:29,650 --> 01:03:25,660
him about me and he sent me this

1291
01:03:34,839 --> 01:03:29,660
so I sat down in my studio turned it on

1292
01:03:37,900 --> 01:03:34,849
and I started hearing these tones coming

1293
01:03:41,259 --> 01:03:37,910
through it and I got the feeling just

1294
01:03:45,719 --> 01:03:41,269
like Kevin was explaining it's like you

1295
01:03:52,410 --> 01:03:45,729
go into a trance and I started writing

1296
01:03:56,499 --> 01:03:52,420
like it was 60 circus music but with a

1297
01:03:59,680 --> 01:03:56,509
futuristic space twist and the first

1298
01:04:03,069 --> 01:03:59,690
song was signals from Malibu and the

1299
01:04:06,729 --> 01:04:03,079
guitar part almost came out like an old

1300
01:04:09,579 --> 01:04:06,739
James Bond theme in a way with this

1301
01:04:12,009 --> 01:04:09,589
digital picture did you do you know in

1302
01:04:14,709 --> 01:04:12,019
the background so I left the signals in

1303
01:04:19,719 --> 01:04:14,719
in spots and it would come in and out of

1304
01:04:24,249 --> 01:04:19,729
the song so I wrote that whole song like

1305
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:24,259
that and did it and did the guitar lead

1306
01:04:28,959 --> 01:04:26,690
and the rhythm to a click track and then

1307
01:04:31,450 --> 01:04:28,969
my band came in and we put the rest of

1308
01:04:35,079 --> 01:04:31,460
the parts to it and everybody said they

1309
01:04:38,829 --> 01:04:35,089
had goosebumps well then I was here

1310
01:04:40,989 --> 01:04:38,839
alone in the house by myself one day and

1311
01:04:43,930 --> 01:04:40,999
I noticed there was four and a half more

1312
01:04:47,499 --> 01:04:43,940
minutes of signals that I didn't listen

1313
01:04:50,489 --> 01:04:47,509
to so I went out in the studio and sat

1314
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:50,499
down at the piano put on the headphones

1315
01:04:57,940 --> 01:04:54,650
turned on those signals and started

1316
01:05:00,219 --> 01:04:57,950
playing and again I went into that like

1317
01:05:02,410 --> 01:05:00,229
trance state I didn't know what key I

1318
01:05:07,660 --> 01:05:02,420
was playing in or even what I was

1319
01:05:11,019 --> 01:05:07,670
playing and so I finished that and I you

1320
01:05:16,779 --> 01:05:11,029
know decided to push record thank God

1321
01:05:20,940 --> 01:05:16,789
and then my violinist came over Sal

1322
01:05:22,630 --> 01:05:20,950
Garza who is classically trained and and

1323
01:05:25,959 --> 01:05:22,640
he's a wizard

1324
01:05:27,969 --> 01:05:25,969
and I said Sal listen to this and I

1325
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:27,979
played it for him and he goes oh my god

1326
01:05:33,969 --> 01:05:30,410
and I said yeah I've got some ideas for

1327
01:05:36,339 --> 01:05:33,979
some some violin and cello parts and he

1328
01:05:38,670 --> 01:05:36,349
goes who's playing the piano and I said

1329
01:05:43,020 --> 01:05:38,680
I am and he goes yeah right

1330
01:05:45,140 --> 01:05:43,030
you're a concert pianist I'm not a real

1331
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:45,150
good piano player you know I play

1332
01:05:51,900 --> 01:05:49,330
electronic pads and things but that was

1333
01:05:54,990 --> 01:05:51,910
something different he said do you know

1334
01:05:59,010 --> 01:05:55,000
those signals are in the key of E and

1335
01:06:01,140 --> 01:05:59,020
you're playing an E minor and he and I

1336
01:06:06,140 --> 01:06:01,150
sat down in one afternoon and wrote all

1337
01:06:11,630 --> 01:06:06,150
the string parts to it and then I put a

1338
01:06:15,870 --> 01:06:11,640
rhythm guitar and a slide solo to it and

1339
01:06:19,860 --> 01:06:15,880
I think yeah I played bass on that too

1340
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:19,870
and that's the song at the end there it

1341
01:06:27,660 --> 01:06:22,890
sounds like a high-pitched lady's voice

1342
01:06:31,700 --> 01:06:27,670
yodeling and that's the place where it

1343
01:06:36,630 --> 01:06:31,710
would turn certain radio stations off

1344
01:06:38,250 --> 01:06:36,640
and so I got Tories tell us that tell us

1345
01:06:42,420 --> 01:06:38,260
that story you totally missed that

1346
01:06:45,510 --> 01:06:42,430
during the break so yeah give us more

1347
01:06:48,390 --> 01:06:45,520
details on that yeah I got curious as to

1348
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:48,400
why it was doing that you know it

1349
01:06:56,100 --> 01:06:51,850
happened on a show I was on in England

1350
01:06:58,710 --> 01:06:56,110
and the host of the show couldn't talk

1351
01:07:02,310 --> 01:06:58,720
through the mixing board anymore it

1352
01:07:04,380 --> 01:07:02,320
totally shut off and the engineer had to

1353
01:07:06,420 --> 01:07:04,390
get on the phone and talk to me so I

1354
01:07:09,690 --> 01:07:06,430
don't know what happened this is the

1355
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:09,700
latest greatest digital broadcast board

1356
01:07:17,010 --> 01:07:13,090
and it just went completely dead and so

1357
01:07:19,830 --> 01:07:17,020
they got called me back a few days later

1358
01:07:23,070 --> 01:07:19,840
and said we had the techs come in and

1359
01:07:27,330 --> 01:07:23,080
they had to reprogram the whole board it

1360
01:07:30,810 --> 01:07:27,340
had erased all of the presets in the

1361
01:07:35,210 --> 01:07:30,820
board and that happened in a mixing

1362
01:07:38,460 --> 01:07:35,220
board in Boston actually on Mac Melones

1363
01:07:41,820 --> 01:07:38,470
mystery hour and then it happened with

1364
01:07:46,380 --> 01:07:41,830
hit Kevin HUD Nell in Texas and it

1365
01:07:49,020 --> 01:07:46,390
happened in Sacramento so I'm friends

1366
01:07:52,630 --> 01:07:49,030
with the head engineer at George Lucas

1367
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:52,640
film in Mill Valley

1368
01:07:58,960 --> 01:07:57,290
and Marin and so I said Bob this is

1369
01:08:01,060 --> 01:07:58,970
what's happening with this can you

1370
01:08:05,710 --> 01:08:01,070
listen to these signals and tell me

1371
01:08:08,530 --> 01:08:05,720
what's going on here and so I sent it up

1372
01:08:11,500 --> 01:08:08,540
to him and he got back to me and he said

1373
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:11,510
well in that spot where you're having

1374
01:08:18,310 --> 01:08:14,450
these problems there's a high-pitched

1375
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:18,320
tone that's inaudible to human ears

1376
01:08:24,190 --> 01:08:21,170
above these lower like carrier

1377
01:08:31,810 --> 01:08:24,200
frequencies and he said that's what's

1378
01:08:34,690 --> 01:08:31,820
doing it and these signals came from an

1379
01:08:37,690 --> 01:08:34,700
underwater dome-shaped building you

1380
01:08:40,270 --> 01:08:37,700
probably all know about with 700 foot

1381
01:08:45,070 --> 01:08:40,280
tall pillars around it with a big

1382
01:08:48,190 --> 01:08:45,080
opening and Emmet went downtown Malibu

1383
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:48,200
and started asking people and surfers

1384
01:08:55,450 --> 01:08:52,850
and stuff you know because he range did

1385
01:08:57,790 --> 01:08:55,460
a range finding thing on where these

1386
01:08:59,800 --> 01:08:57,800
signals that he recorded and there were

1387
01:09:04,720 --> 01:08:59,810
3 miles out in the ocean and there's

1388
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:04,730
nothing there and so he ran into this

1389
01:09:11,410 --> 01:09:08,770
Chumash Indian which is the Indian

1390
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:11,420
native tribe that was here for several

1391
01:09:17,590 --> 01:09:13,850
thousand years living on the coast of

1392
01:09:19,990 --> 01:09:17,600
California and somehow he started

1393
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:20,000
telling this guy about it and the guy

1394
01:09:25,390 --> 01:09:22,730
says oh you know there's a big building

1395
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:25,400
a dome-shaped building underneath the

1396
01:09:30,430 --> 01:09:28,010
water out there and he goes what and he

1397
01:09:33,220 --> 01:09:30,440
goes yeah when our tribe is known about

1398
01:09:37,690 --> 01:09:33,230
that for thousands of years and when the

1399
01:09:41,100 --> 01:09:37,700
ocean level was lower they used to use

1400
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:41,110
it like a pier and fish off of it

1401
01:09:50,950 --> 01:09:46,010
so I was on after I'd done these songs

1402
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:50,960
and they were out on the radio I was on

1403
01:09:57,610 --> 01:09:54,410
dr. Bob hieronymus show out of Maryland

1404
01:09:59,860 --> 01:09:57,620
and he had been playing both signals

1405
01:10:02,980 --> 01:09:59,870
from Malibu and messages from the dome

1406
01:10:05,189 --> 01:10:02,990
and the whole album on his radio show

1407
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:05,199
and he said Merle I want you to listen

1408
01:10:10,020 --> 01:10:07,449
something he starts playing these

1409
01:10:13,979 --> 01:10:10,030
signals and there's a dog barking in the

1410
01:10:17,430 --> 01:10:13,989
background and they're identical to the

1411
01:10:21,209 --> 01:10:17,440
signals in these songs and it's like

1412
01:10:24,870 --> 01:10:21,219
there's more than one signal they're you

1413
01:10:28,580 --> 01:10:24,880
know like three layers in it and he said

1414
01:10:32,009 --> 01:10:28,590
those are from 1971 recorded by a guy in

1415
01:10:34,649 --> 01:10:32,019
Sweden named billy meier and he said

1416
01:10:36,779 --> 01:10:34,659
there was a UFO hovering over his house

1417
01:10:38,489 --> 01:10:36,789
and you know I'm gonna have to interrupt

1418
01:10:40,199 --> 01:10:38,499
you here because we have to go to our

1419
01:10:42,689 --> 01:10:40,209
bottom of the hour break we'll be right

1420
01:10:54,270 --> 01:10:42,699
back for more exploring the bizarre so

1421
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:54,280
stay tuned now back to exploring the

1422
01:10:59,189 --> 01:10:56,650
bizarre with two of the most

1423
01:11:02,939 --> 01:10:59,199
electrifying researchers in the Paranoid

1424
01:11:09,060 --> 01:11:02,949
your hosts Timothy Becca Lee and team

1425
01:11:09,070 --> 01:11:16,290
[Music]

1426
01:11:20,370 --> 01:11:17,740
demon speech

1427
01:11:23,620 --> 01:11:20,380
[Music]

1428
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:23,630
alright that's cut from witch doctor and

1429
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:26,930
Merle what albums up from it's on our

1430
01:11:32,980 --> 01:11:30,050
latest album it's called Tiki lounge

1431
01:11:36,130 --> 01:11:32,990
live you know I've been doing this TV

1432
01:11:39,670 --> 01:11:36,140
show here for 17 years I've got a

1433
01:11:41,710 --> 01:11:39,680
backlog set that looks like Hawaii with

1434
01:11:43,780 --> 01:11:41,720
a stage and I've had everybody from

1435
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:43,790
canned heat the starship

1436
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:47,090
Willie Nelson oh gosh

1437
01:11:52,930 --> 01:11:50,930
Peter Lewis from Moby Grape just tons of

1438
01:11:55,690 --> 01:11:52,940
people have performed back there and we

1439
01:11:59,440 --> 01:11:55,700
do a half an hour show where we

1440
01:12:02,530 --> 01:11:59,450
interview people and play music and you

1441
01:12:04,660 --> 01:12:02,540
can see 11 of the shows on youtube if

1442
01:12:07,450 --> 01:12:04,670
you go there and type in Merle

1443
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:07,460
fankhauser 'he's Tiki lounge a list will

1444
01:12:15,340 --> 01:12:11,210
come up and you can see that all over

1445
01:12:18,430 --> 01:12:15,350
California okay so yeah it's it it's up

1446
01:12:22,030 --> 01:12:18,440
and down the coast of California on four

1447
01:12:24,790 --> 01:12:22,040
stations and then it's in Hawaii also

1448
01:12:27,060 --> 01:12:24,800
and people in Hawaii think I'm still

1449
01:12:30,580 --> 01:12:27,070
hiding out in the jungle somewhere

1450
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:30,590
didn't shooting the show over there that

1451
01:12:37,420 --> 01:12:34,850
because the back lot here looks so

1452
01:12:41,500 --> 01:12:37,430
tropical I'd have it full of tropical

1453
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:41,510
plants and a stage with you know bamboo

1454
01:12:47,770 --> 01:12:45,290
around it and we have a lot of fun doing

1455
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:47,780
the show but but you shoot it in your

1456
01:12:52,630 --> 01:12:51,530
own studio yeah it's it's shot in my

1457
01:12:56,020 --> 01:12:52,640
backyard

1458
01:12:59,440 --> 01:12:56,030
I have a whole crew and then I have an

1459
01:13:02,440 --> 01:12:59,450
indoor part where which is a studio part

1460
01:13:05,350 --> 01:13:02,450
of the recording studio this also looks

1461
01:13:07,990 --> 01:13:05,360
like a tropical cabin inside and that's

1462
01:13:10,780 --> 01:13:08,000
where I interview a lot of people and

1463
01:13:14,410 --> 01:13:10,790
all the music we can see comfortably

1464
01:13:18,850 --> 01:13:14,420
about set an audience of about 70 people

1465
01:13:20,890 --> 01:13:18,860
in the back and what inspired you to

1466
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:20,900
start doing the Tiki lounge in the first

1467
01:13:29,590 --> 01:13:24,410
place well I was doing a

1468
01:13:32,440 --> 01:13:29,600
in the 90s 1990 and 91 called California

1469
01:13:35,410 --> 01:13:32,450
music that it was on satellite and I did

1470
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:35,420
it at a local station here and they made

1471
01:13:41,170 --> 01:13:37,730
a deal with a satellite network and we

1472
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:41,180
were going to 15 million people on a

1473
01:13:47,170 --> 01:13:44,090
hundred and fifty stations across the

1474
01:13:53,010 --> 01:13:47,180
United States and even in South America

1475
01:13:58,480 --> 01:13:53,020
and I did that till oh gosh about 1996

1476
01:14:01,900 --> 01:13:58,490
and then it was interrupting my touring

1477
01:14:06,580 --> 01:14:01,910
schedule and in writing a bit because I

1478
01:14:08,710 --> 01:14:06,590
was doing it three times a week and so I

1479
01:14:13,180 --> 01:14:08,720
quit doing it for a while and then I

1480
01:14:16,180 --> 01:14:13,190
went back to Hawaii for a while in 2001

1481
01:14:17,380 --> 01:14:16,190
I got the bug to do it again and while I

1482
01:14:22,870 --> 01:14:17,390
was over there I bought a

1483
01:14:25,630 --> 01:14:22,880
seven-foot-tall Samoan Tiki and shipped

1484
01:14:29,380 --> 01:14:25,640
it back home and I looked out in the

1485
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:29,390
studio and I went hmm we should do a

1486
01:14:35,170 --> 01:14:31,850
show and call it Tiki lounge and that's

1487
01:14:37,030 --> 01:14:35,180
how that started there's that there's

1488
01:14:40,030 --> 01:14:37,040
that inspiration again that just seems

1489
01:14:42,610 --> 01:14:40,040
to come out of nowhere yeah but I wanted

1490
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:42,620
to finish the signals from Malibu story

1491
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:46,850
real quick sure good you know the guy

1492
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:49,970
picked up these signals and sent him to

1493
01:14:55,480 --> 01:14:52,130
me and I wrote those two songs and I

1494
01:14:59,230 --> 01:14:55,490
sent him to my label that I'm on gonzo

1495
01:15:01,150 --> 01:14:59,240
multimedia in England and they loved it

1496
01:15:04,030 --> 01:15:01,160
and they said if you write a whole album

1497
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:04,040
of this we'll put it out so within a

1498
01:15:10,660 --> 01:15:05,810
month and a half I had a whole album

1499
01:15:13,180 --> 01:15:10,670
done and they released it well I started

1500
01:15:15,850 --> 01:15:13,190
doing radio interviews with it and I did

1501
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:15,860
one up the coast here in San Luis Obispo

1502
01:15:22,750 --> 01:15:19,730
and a lady heard me talking about it and

1503
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:22,760
she called up the station and said this

1504
01:15:30,730 --> 01:15:25,850
is very interesting because my mom and

1505
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:30,740
my aunt lived in Malibu in the forties

1506
01:15:36,730 --> 01:15:33,170
and they used to go down to the beach at

1507
01:15:37,870 --> 01:15:36,740
night and watch lights go in and out of

1508
01:15:41,379 --> 01:15:37,880
the water

1509
01:15:44,290 --> 01:15:41,389
and it was in that exact spot where the

1510
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:44,300
old Indian guy said this building was

1511
01:15:51,189 --> 01:15:47,810
well the building is on the cover of my

1512
01:15:54,939 --> 01:15:51,199
signals from Malibu album and you can

1513
01:15:58,780 --> 01:15:54,949
also see it on YouTube because I got

1514
01:16:02,399 --> 01:15:58,790
underwater photographs of it and they're

1515
01:16:05,379 --> 01:16:02,409
sure it's a UFO base and there they were

1516
01:16:09,129 --> 01:16:05,389
Michael Luckman was actually trying to

1517
01:16:11,979 --> 01:16:09,139
get somebody with an ROV to go in this

1518
01:16:15,180 --> 01:16:11,989
opening and see what was in there but

1519
01:16:17,890 --> 01:16:15,190
that never happened and he passed away

1520
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:17,900
mmm but the other thing when I was a

1521
01:16:24,070 --> 01:16:20,210
teenager and I was living here in Pismo

1522
01:16:26,890 --> 01:16:24,080
we used to go down to Malibu to surf and

1523
01:16:29,740 --> 01:16:26,900
one day we finished surfing and it was

1524
01:16:33,100 --> 01:16:29,750
called Point Dume where we were surfing

1525
01:16:35,379 --> 01:16:33,110
and it was starting to get dark and we

1526
01:16:37,300 --> 01:16:35,389
got out of the water and there were some

1527
01:16:39,729 --> 01:16:37,310
local surfers there and they said oh you

1528
01:16:42,729 --> 01:16:39,739
guys leaving you ought to stick around

1529
01:16:46,540 --> 01:16:42,739
and watch the lights go in and out of

1530
01:16:51,340 --> 01:16:46,550
the water and we went what and that was

1531
01:16:53,110 --> 01:16:51,350
about 1961 so we get in the car and

1532
01:16:54,970 --> 01:16:53,120
we're driving home and my buddy is

1533
01:16:58,270 --> 01:16:54,980
laughing he goes ah they're seeing

1534
01:17:00,729 --> 01:16:58,280
pelicans fishing you know and when the

1535
01:17:03,550 --> 01:17:00,739
Sun is just right and with their wings

1536
01:17:06,189 --> 01:17:03,560
and they dive in the water it couldn't

1537
01:17:09,189 --> 01:17:06,199
look like a light or something but then

1538
01:17:13,450 --> 01:17:09,199
when I got these signals and this lady

1539
01:17:17,140 --> 01:17:13,460
called up I went wait a minute this has

1540
01:17:21,100 --> 01:17:17,150
been going on in that area this

1541
01:17:24,430 --> 01:17:21,110
phenomena for all of these years in here

1542
01:17:27,790 --> 01:17:24,440
now I'm tapped into it because this old

1543
01:17:30,580 --> 01:17:27,800
radio operator sent me these signals and

1544
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:30,590
I wrote wrote these songs so it's

1545
01:17:37,390 --> 01:17:34,489
another one of those synchronicity kind

1546
01:17:40,450 --> 01:17:37,400
of things that you can't quite explain

1547
01:17:43,689 --> 01:17:40,460
where it comes from and I'm sure Kevin

1548
01:17:45,729 --> 01:17:43,699
knows all about what I'm talking about

1549
01:17:49,959 --> 01:17:45,739
oh yeah absolutely

1550
01:17:51,100 --> 01:17:49,969
well Kevin now we've kind of danced

1551
01:17:55,150 --> 01:17:51,110
around a little bit you

1552
01:17:56,890 --> 01:17:55,160
or UFO sighting of 2014 why don't you

1553
01:17:59,250 --> 01:17:56,900
tell us about that because I mean that

1554
01:18:03,640 --> 01:17:59,260
was that that really was a really

1555
01:18:07,890 --> 01:18:03,650
significant event in your life yes

1556
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:07,900
absolutely it was it was it was quite

1557
01:18:15,010 --> 01:18:12,410
breathtaking it's so kind of what

1558
01:18:18,490 --> 01:18:15,020
happened was I went out onto my deck

1559
01:18:21,250 --> 01:18:18,500
August 21st 2014 it was 10:30 at night I

1560
01:18:23,500 --> 01:18:21,260
live in the city of Hamilton and you

1561
01:18:25,500 --> 01:18:23,510
know it's it's it's a quite a populated

1562
01:18:28,780 --> 01:18:25,510
city it's five hundred thousand and

1563
01:18:32,110 --> 01:18:28,790
within five seconds of be stepping out

1564
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:32,120
of my deck what appears from behind my

1565
01:18:37,900 --> 01:18:34,970
my my trees my neighbor's tree on my

1566
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:37,910
right-hand side this object starts to

1567
01:18:41,650 --> 01:18:40,010
come out from behind the tree and I said

1568
01:18:44,830 --> 01:18:41,660
it was only a hundred yards away from me

1569
01:18:48,430 --> 01:18:44,840
he's really close and at first I thought

1570
01:18:50,650 --> 01:18:48,440
it was the meteorite because it was kind

1571
01:18:53,410 --> 01:18:50,660
of oranges red glowing like coals and

1572
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:53,420
they had this like mist that was kind of

1573
01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:54,770
coming off the top of it along the

1574
01:18:59,830 --> 01:18:57,410
bottom of it and I didn't know what this

1575
01:19:02,020 --> 01:18:59,840
was and what if I the time time I

1576
01:19:05,770 --> 01:19:02,030
finally came into full view it was a

1577
01:19:08,470 --> 01:19:05,780
perfect beautiful disc and as maybe 40

1578
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:08,480
or 50 feet in diameter and was just kind

1579
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:11,090
of moving across the sky a very slow no

1580
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:14,690
more than a helicopter speed but the

1581
01:19:19,690 --> 01:19:16,250
strange thing about the way it looked

1582
01:19:21,610 --> 01:19:19,700
was that it was two-dimensional and let

1583
01:19:23,590 --> 01:19:21,620
me to describe that it was you know it's

1584
01:19:26,290 --> 01:19:23,600
like looking at a solar eclipse which

1585
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:26,300
looks like a hole this guy you know it's

1586
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:27,770
got a height it's got width but it has

1587
01:19:32,410 --> 01:19:30,770
no depth and I when I was looking for

1588
01:19:34,060 --> 01:19:32,420
this thing I I didn't know what I was

1589
01:19:35,850 --> 01:19:34,070
looking at because I've seen UFOs in

1590
01:19:38,310 --> 01:19:35,860
movies and you know YouTube and stuff

1591
01:19:40,660 --> 01:19:38,320
nothing like what I saw

1592
01:19:42,790 --> 01:19:40,670
however just recently actually the last

1593
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:42,800
two weeks something actually finally

1594
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:46,850
posted on Facebook of a UFO that if

1595
01:19:52,420 --> 01:19:48,890
anyone was called it was the the

1596
01:19:54,930 --> 01:19:52,430
incidents that were this UFO landed and

1597
01:19:57,490 --> 01:19:54,940
or not landed it actually came over to a

1598
01:19:59,860 --> 01:19:57,500
military base and it disabled a whole

1599
01:20:02,470 --> 01:19:59,870
bunch of nuclear weapons and this videos

1600
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:02,480
circulating on Facebook right now the

1601
01:20:08,530 --> 01:20:04,850
video they showed of the UFO that one

1602
01:20:11,650 --> 01:20:08,540
looks exactly like the one I saw shape

1603
01:20:13,660 --> 01:20:11,660
the color the you know the

1604
01:20:15,430 --> 01:20:13,670
two-dimensional it's like that's this

1605
01:20:17,740 --> 01:20:15,440
that's the same one in fact it probably

1606
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:17,750
could be the same one that I saw so this

1607
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:20,330
thing you know it's covered in plasma

1608
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:22,010
and moves across the sky and it starts

1609
01:20:26,020 --> 01:20:24,410
moving towards benbrook and then as it's

1610
01:20:28,900 --> 01:20:26,030
moving away it starts forming this

1611
01:20:30,730 --> 01:20:28,910
swirling vortex in the front of it like

1612
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:30,740
a like a portal almost and then they

1613
01:20:33,970 --> 01:20:32,090
just kind of you know keep going until

1614
01:20:36,820 --> 01:20:33,980
it finally just got away out of my view

1615
01:20:40,300 --> 01:20:36,830
so I didn't know what I was looking at I

1616
01:20:41,890 --> 01:20:40,310
was shocked I was shocked and that was

1617
01:20:44,230 --> 01:20:41,900
my first you it well that's my second

1618
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:44,240
UFO encounter mm-hmm my first UofL

1619
01:20:49,210 --> 01:20:46,250
encounter was back in the year 2000 up

1620
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:49,220
in Huntsville which is the northern

1621
01:20:54,070 --> 01:20:51,890
country in Ontario and that was very

1622
01:20:58,030 --> 01:20:54,080
bizarre because I had a missing time

1623
01:20:58,720 --> 01:20:58,040
during that episode oh okay well tell us

1624
01:21:01,810 --> 01:20:58,730
about that

1625
01:21:03,940 --> 01:21:01,820
definitely okay sure so I was with my

1626
01:21:05,710 --> 01:21:03,950
band members at the time of our drummer

1627
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:05,720
and he's an experienced here too he's

1628
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:08,210
seen many UFOs and he quit the band to

1629
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:10,010
become a full-time crop circle

1630
01:21:14,590 --> 01:21:13,010
researcher but he and I were in the lake

1631
01:21:17,370 --> 01:21:14,600
it's we decided to go for swim in the

1632
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:17,380
lake at nighttime not a cloud in the sky

1633
01:21:21,940 --> 01:21:19,850
10,000 stars in the sky the nearest city

1634
01:21:24,490 --> 01:21:21,950
is 100 miles and the moon's bright and

1635
01:21:26,500 --> 01:21:24,500
it's beautiful peaceful but then all of

1636
01:21:30,070 --> 01:21:26,510
a sudden we hear this sound it sounded

1637
01:21:35,979 --> 01:21:33,160
sound like this hey and so we look up at

1638
01:21:38,860 --> 01:21:35,989
the sky and there was his object that

1639
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:38,870
was hurtling right towards us and it

1640
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:40,370
wasn't like it came out of space this

1641
01:21:45,190 --> 01:21:41,570
thing was like no it was like a few

1642
01:21:47,440 --> 01:21:45,200
thousand feet above us and it was it was

1643
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:47,450
the same diameter as the moon and it

1644
01:21:53,020 --> 01:21:51,170
kind of it was bright as the moon but it

1645
01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:53,030
had flames that were shooting all the

1646
01:21:56,830 --> 01:21:54,770
way around the edges of it so I could

1647
01:21:58,990 --> 01:21:56,840
tell that its trajectory was it was

1648
01:22:01,810 --> 01:21:59,000
heading right for us like it was going

1649
01:22:04,300 --> 01:22:01,820
to land on our heads and we and it

1650
01:22:06,790 --> 01:22:04,310
happened so quick and I just thought

1651
01:22:10,030 --> 01:22:06,800
we're hearing this sound that's like

1652
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:10,040
this right and also some flash and it

1653
01:22:13,930 --> 01:22:11,810
was peaceful the stars are there that

1654
01:22:15,970 --> 01:22:13,940
moons up there and it was like nothing

1655
01:22:18,550 --> 01:22:15,980
had happened and I was like what what

1656
01:22:20,770 --> 01:22:18,560
the heck has happened there was that UFO

1657
01:22:22,020 --> 01:22:20,780
and we have no clue what had just

1658
01:22:23,440 --> 01:22:22,030
happened we just don't that was

1659
01:22:25,870 --> 01:22:23,450
completely bizarre

1660
01:22:27,670 --> 01:22:25,880
you know we've waited for you a folk you

1661
01:22:29,709 --> 01:22:27,680
know our entire life and this object

1662
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:29,719
comes hurtling at us and then there's a

1663
01:22:35,140 --> 01:22:33,050
flash and it's not there and it was

1664
01:22:36,910 --> 01:22:35,150
almost 15 years later when I was on a

1665
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:36,920
radio interview and these two guys were

1666
01:22:41,050 --> 01:22:39,650
talking about you know they redrew me

1667
01:22:43,030 --> 01:22:41,060
and they discussed about what missing

1668
01:22:45,190 --> 01:22:43,040
time was like and I said yeah these

1669
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:45,200
people described it as like a bad movie

1670
01:22:51,910 --> 01:22:49,010
at it and I said I just went oh my god

1671
01:22:54,190 --> 01:22:51,920
that's exactly what I experienced it was

1672
01:22:56,860 --> 01:22:54,200
like a bad movie at it it was like a

1673
01:22:59,680 --> 01:22:56,870
jump cut it was like a like he's a cool

1674
01:23:01,090 --> 01:22:59,690
the film was cut apart was taken out and

1675
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:01,100
it just put back together and spliced

1676
01:23:06,700 --> 01:23:03,770
together and it's just it just continues

1677
01:23:07,830 --> 01:23:06,710
and you're like wait a second it this

1678
01:23:10,660 --> 01:23:07,840
doesn't make any sense

1679
01:23:13,209 --> 01:23:10,670
look what happened to the like it

1680
01:23:15,670 --> 01:23:13,219
there's there's a missing time what's

1681
01:23:19,209 --> 01:23:15,680
going on that's why I finally realize

1682
01:23:22,270 --> 01:23:19,219
that something had happened have you

1683
01:23:24,700 --> 01:23:22,280
ever attempted to you know look back and

1684
01:23:28,300 --> 01:23:24,710
to see what happened yes I actually did

1685
01:23:30,340 --> 01:23:28,310
go under hypnosis and whatever happened

1686
01:23:31,990 --> 01:23:30,350
it's completely I'm not supposed to

1687
01:23:34,810 --> 01:23:32,000
remember whatever happened at that point

1688
01:23:36,610 --> 01:23:34,820
really but it's not it's not the only

1689
01:23:39,810 --> 01:23:36,620
time that I have missing time because I

1690
01:23:42,790 --> 01:23:39,820
I know that I've met with the the ponty

1691
01:23:43,750 --> 01:23:42,800
several times they I've there's another

1692
01:23:45,490 --> 01:23:43,760
incident that took place

1693
01:23:47,620 --> 01:23:45,500
I found out about last week where I met

1694
01:23:50,649 --> 01:23:47,630
up with I meant with Telkom and radar

1695
01:23:53,229 --> 01:23:50,659
and I don't have any memory of it but a

1696
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:53,239
friend of mine who lives in Australia

1697
01:23:57,009 --> 01:23:54,530
who was the one who introduced me to

1698
01:23:59,890 --> 01:23:57,019
Sandia wisdom he was saying so how did

1699
01:24:02,350 --> 01:23:59,900
your interview go I'm like what do you

1700
01:24:04,450 --> 01:24:02,360
mean I don't remember this interview but

1701
01:24:06,009 --> 01:24:04,460
are the front of ours who follows a

1702
01:24:08,919 --> 01:24:06,019
month on Twitter's think he goes by the

1703
01:24:11,410 --> 01:24:08,929
name Romulan captain he remembers being

1704
01:24:14,649 --> 01:24:11,420
with me watching me talking in with

1705
01:24:16,209 --> 01:24:14,659
radar until CIM and radar was a complete

1706
01:24:18,370 --> 01:24:16,219
goofball when he was completely joking

1707
01:24:20,919 --> 01:24:18,380
around and in silk'n was very serious I

1708
01:24:22,779 --> 01:24:20,929
don't have any memory of this but

1709
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:22,789
another extraterrestrial who works with

1710
01:24:26,830 --> 01:24:25,010
them his name's Grayson I said okay

1711
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:26,840
they're saying that I met I met with

1712
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:28,730
Telkom and radar is that correct he said

1713
01:24:35,259 --> 01:24:31,610
yes you did I'm like how come I don't

1714
01:24:38,529 --> 01:24:35,269
remember this it's very frustrating it's

1715
01:24:44,229 --> 01:24:38,539
like why can't I remember why won't they

1716
01:24:46,890 --> 01:24:44,239
let me remember I don't know but you

1717
01:24:50,350 --> 01:24:46,900
know they visited me three weeks ago and

1718
01:24:54,490 --> 01:24:50,360
they did some kind of surgical medical

1719
01:24:56,830 --> 01:24:54,500
procedure to me because I was woken to

1720
01:24:59,589 --> 01:24:56,840
the feeling of liquid draining out of my

1721
01:25:01,270 --> 01:24:59,599
left ear and it startled me and I didn't

1722
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:01,280
know what the heck was going on and then

1723
01:25:04,149 --> 01:25:02,690
two nights later I discovered this was

1724
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:04,159
almost like a blood stain on my pillow

1725
01:25:09,490 --> 01:25:07,730
and then I'm talking to my friend who

1726
01:25:11,470 --> 01:25:09,500
lives over in Australia he was talking

1727
01:25:14,290 --> 01:25:11,480
about the same procedure happened to him

1728
01:25:17,950 --> 01:25:14,300
the day after mine and we described the

1729
01:25:19,209 --> 01:25:17,960
exact same exact same experience and he

1730
01:25:20,620 --> 01:25:19,219
said oh yeah thank you for reminding me

1731
01:25:22,390 --> 01:25:20,630
about the the liquid draining of your

1732
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:22,400
left ear that was part of the procedure

1733
01:25:26,169 --> 01:25:24,170
they put liquid over heads it clears our

1734
01:25:28,509 --> 01:25:26,179
heads and the last Pirtle liquid will

1735
01:25:32,169 --> 01:25:28,519
fall out and land your pillow so I'm

1736
01:25:33,850 --> 01:25:32,179
like oh my god and I actually still have

1737
01:25:35,950 --> 01:25:33,860
this sample and I've been working with

1738
01:25:38,220 --> 01:25:35,960
me fun and we're arranging to have the

1739
01:25:40,870 --> 01:25:38,230
sample analyzed to find out what it was

1740
01:25:43,870 --> 01:25:40,880
that they put in my head because all I

1741
01:25:46,359 --> 01:25:43,880
know is that for two days or three days

1742
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:46,369
after this you know this the surgical

1743
01:25:52,419 --> 01:25:49,130
procedure my urine started to smell

1744
01:25:55,109 --> 01:25:52,429
really putrid like metallic like

1745
01:25:57,490 --> 01:25:55,119
chemicals I'm like what's going on here

1746
01:25:59,770 --> 01:25:57,500
and and for a whole

1747
01:26:01,450 --> 01:25:59,780
week my head was clearing and now parts

1748
01:26:04,300 --> 01:26:01,460
of my brains have activated that have

1749
01:26:06,910 --> 01:26:04,310
never been activated before they did a

1750
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:06,920
complete cleansing of the chemicals I'm

1751
01:26:11,500 --> 01:26:08,330
sure they took all the fluorine out of

1752
01:26:13,420 --> 01:26:11,510
my brain but my physiology is changing

1753
01:26:17,710 --> 01:26:13,430
now starting to say they gave you a

1754
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:17,720
metaphysical flush yes well it's like

1755
01:26:21,310 --> 01:26:19,250
it's a flush it was definitely a flush

1756
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:21,320
to clean out the stuff that they put

1757
01:26:26,230 --> 01:26:23,690
nerve in our in our food and in our in

1758
01:26:29,050 --> 01:26:26,240
our in our water to to dumb us down I

1759
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:29,060
mean fluoride we know calcifies the

1760
01:26:33,010 --> 01:26:31,370
pineal gland you know they don't put in

1761
01:26:40,620 --> 01:26:33,020
our water for the benefit of our health

1762
01:26:43,630 --> 01:26:40,630
trust me all right now we're rapidly

1763
01:26:45,490 --> 01:26:43,640
approaching unfortunately the the end of

1764
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:45,500
the show we still have a while yet here

1765
01:26:54,580 --> 01:26:49,010
but I wanted to ask you to kind of

1766
01:26:57,730 --> 01:26:54,590
address a little bit the idea that that

1767
01:27:01,270 --> 01:26:57,740
grant grant Cameron has come up with and

1768
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:01,280
I know you've discussed it as well the

1769
01:27:08,350 --> 01:27:05,210
whole idea about how you know possibly

1770
01:27:11,020 --> 01:27:08,360
some other intelligence is using music

1771
01:27:17,730 --> 01:27:11,030
and is influencing artists such as

1772
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:17,740
yourself and Meryl to I don't know I

1773
01:27:22,660 --> 01:27:20,090
don't know really how did how to

1774
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:22,670
describe it to actually to to be like a

1775
01:27:32,050 --> 01:27:27,410
catalyst almost for younger generations

1776
01:27:33,790 --> 01:27:32,060
through your music yeah for Meryl and I

1777
01:27:36,340 --> 01:27:33,800
it's it's two different paths but for

1778
01:27:38,440 --> 01:27:36,350
Merle he's able to get certain messages

1779
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:38,450
into the vinton music that reaches

1780
01:27:43,660 --> 01:27:41,690
certain levels of consciousness and with

1781
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:43,670
different people people are either at a

1782
01:27:47,260 --> 01:27:46,010
higher vibration or they're not right

1783
01:27:49,630 --> 01:27:47,270
now the earth is going through a

1784
01:27:51,190 --> 01:27:49,640
transition area period where those of

1785
01:27:53,170 --> 01:27:51,200
higher vibration are going to be moving

1786
01:27:56,890 --> 01:27:53,180
on to the new earth those of lower

1787
01:27:58,480 --> 01:27:56,900
vibration will stay on the old earth his

1788
01:28:00,820 --> 01:27:58,490
music is reaching a certain levels of

1789
01:28:02,230 --> 01:28:00,830
consciousness and with me my level is

1790
01:28:04,450 --> 01:28:02,240
reaching a different level of

1791
01:28:06,790 --> 01:28:04,460
consciousness because I my music is now

1792
01:28:08,620 --> 01:28:06,800
I'm communicating at a more of a

1793
01:28:10,660 --> 01:28:08,630
telepathic level a fourth fifth

1794
01:28:11,170 --> 01:28:10,670
dimension which I'm starting to learn

1795
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:11,180
more

1796
01:28:16,420 --> 01:28:15,050
teachings and that you can actually do

1797
01:28:18,340 --> 01:28:16,430
this where you can actually record a

1798
01:28:22,390 --> 01:28:18,350
telepathic message on to the physical

1799
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:22,400
recording it is possible mm-hmm where

1800
01:28:29,020 --> 01:28:23,690
all you are do you want to explain with

1801
01:28:33,730 --> 01:28:29,030
that I don't know I'm just so enthralled

1802
01:28:36,250 --> 01:28:33,740
with what you're saying but yeah we when

1803
01:28:39,460 --> 01:28:36,260
I was in the band mu we were even into

1804
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:39,470
color vibration you know that we'd

1805
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:42,170
certain tones in the music there was

1806
01:28:51,250 --> 01:28:45,530
healing vibrations and then there was a

1807
01:28:54,070 --> 01:28:51,260
telepathy that was possible and we you

1808
01:28:58,780 --> 01:28:54,080
know knew about this and when I lived on

1809
01:29:04,900 --> 01:28:58,790
Maui I took a retreat with a Tibetan

1810
01:29:08,230 --> 01:29:04,910
lama and when we were having a whole

1811
01:29:10,030 --> 01:29:08,240
group discussion and we got to play for

1812
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:10,040
him and it was the first time he had

1813
01:29:18,790 --> 01:29:15,170
heard you know music from this from the

1814
01:29:21,490 --> 01:29:18,800
West if you want to say and he asked me

1815
01:29:26,020 --> 01:29:21,500
where does the music come from and I

1816
01:29:31,570 --> 01:29:26,030
said everywhere and he nodded good

1817
01:29:36,180 --> 01:29:31,580
answer and then we got our initiation in

1818
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:36,190
my initiation on the paper it says

1819
01:29:43,480 --> 01:29:38,570
Llodra Jan Sal

1820
01:29:49,030 --> 01:29:43,490
which means oceans of intelligence so I

1821
01:29:51,730 --> 01:29:49,040
kept going on my Dharma and never knew

1822
01:29:55,150 --> 01:29:51,740
that I already have oceans of

1823
01:29:59,110 --> 01:29:55,160
intelligence or is that you know what I

1824
01:30:01,360 --> 01:29:59,120
was striving for and it's just like when

1825
01:30:07,450 --> 01:30:01,370
you were talking about going to the edge

1826
01:30:13,090 --> 01:30:07,460
of the lot and I know exactly where

1827
01:30:17,500 --> 01:30:13,100
that's at and you know somehow like I

1828
01:30:20,620 --> 01:30:17,510
keep there still feeding me is the only

1829
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:20,630
way I know to it explain it and I'm

1830
01:30:24,670 --> 01:30:22,730
thankful that it's happened and you know

1831
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:24,680
I have an album out

1832
01:30:31,330 --> 01:30:29,090
area 51 sweet when I went to area 51 and

1833
01:30:33,850 --> 01:30:31,340
I knew people that worked there and

1834
01:30:37,150 --> 01:30:33,860
talked about Bob Lazar in the mountain

1835
01:30:40,450 --> 01:30:37,160
that opened up that had the hangar where

1836
01:30:43,300 --> 01:30:40,460
they kept the UFO in there and the guy

1837
01:30:48,220 --> 01:30:43,310
was just a welder that I knew there but

1838
01:30:52,740 --> 01:30:48,230
he somehow got to see the UFO and so I

1839
01:30:57,700 --> 01:30:52,750
wrote a whole album that's out on gonzo

1840
01:31:02,740 --> 01:30:57,710
multimedia called area 51 sweet but back

1841
01:31:05,860 --> 01:31:02,750
in 1986 I did an album called messages

1842
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:05,870
from the universe and it has a painting

1843
01:31:12,430 --> 01:31:08,690
of me with two silver saucers and the

1844
01:31:15,610 --> 01:31:12,440
crater on Maui and back of me so that

1845
01:31:19,630 --> 01:31:15,620
was actually the first album that I

1846
01:31:22,030 --> 01:31:19,640
really did it was about space and space

1847
01:31:26,860 --> 01:31:22,040
music and there's a song on there called

1848
01:31:29,230 --> 01:31:26,870
alien talk so it's you know they've been

1849
01:31:33,010 --> 01:31:29,240
feeding me for a long time but I

1850
01:31:35,440 --> 01:31:33,020
probably didn't know that that was

1851
01:31:39,100 --> 01:31:35,450
happening I just you know went along

1852
01:31:41,530 --> 01:31:39,110
with it and now talking to people like

1853
01:31:44,190 --> 01:31:41,540
you and Grant Cameron and Michael

1854
01:31:48,670 --> 01:31:44,200
Luckman and other people I've

1855
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:48,680
communicated with I know that there's

1856
01:31:55,030 --> 01:31:52,130
we're lucky that you know we're getting

1857
01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:55,040
the message alright gentlemen we're

1858
01:31:58,930 --> 01:31:56,690
almost out of time here so I want to

1859
01:32:00,610 --> 01:31:58,940
give you both a chance to let our

1860
01:32:02,170 --> 01:32:00,620
listeners know a little bit more about

1861
01:32:06,850 --> 01:32:02,180
you where they can find out more about

1862
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:06,860
you well let's start with you first new

1863
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:10,010
projects website that sort of thing yeah

1864
01:32:16,030 --> 01:32:13,610
my website is Merle fankhauser dot-com

1865
01:32:19,480 --> 01:32:16,040
and you can email me there

1866
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:19,490
and I'd really like for Kevin to email

1867
01:32:27,100 --> 01:32:21,770
me because after meeting him tonight I

1868
01:32:30,730 --> 01:32:27,110
want to stay in touch and the new album

1869
01:32:34,570 --> 01:32:30,740
is out now brand new Tiki lounge live

1870
01:32:37,780 --> 01:32:34,580
and you can still get the signals from

1871
01:32:43,020 --> 01:32:37,790
Malibu album it's out

1872
01:32:46,330 --> 01:32:43,030
and my song Lila that I wrote in 1966 is

1873
01:32:49,990 --> 01:32:46,340
coming out in the movie Chappaquiddick

1874
01:32:54,790 --> 01:32:50,000
about the incident with Ted Kennedy and

1875
01:32:59,110 --> 01:32:54,800
there's a lot of good 60s music in that

1876
01:33:01,720 --> 01:32:59,120
movie and I'll also this summer my song

1877
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:01,730
calling from a star will be on a space

1878
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:06,530
rock compilation on a British label so

1879
01:33:14,110 --> 01:33:10,730
that's and you know I had the I just

1880
01:33:17,290 --> 01:33:14,120
keep on rocking alright thank you and

1881
01:33:20,830 --> 01:33:17,300
and given what about you yes you can

1882
01:33:25,540 --> 01:33:20,840
find everything for me at my website at

1883
01:33:28,900 --> 01:33:25,550
pyramids on Mars calm all my music there

1884
01:33:30,190 --> 01:33:28,910
links to all my radio interviews I also

1885
01:33:32,050 --> 01:33:30,200
have my own series of online

1886
01:33:35,500 --> 01:33:32,060
instructional guitar lessons that teach

1887
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:35,510
my approach to Neil classically

1888
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:38,290
influenced Bach and Vivaldi

1889
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:41,650
violin music inspired guitar playing so

1890
01:33:47,740 --> 01:33:45,410
alright that's my inspiration

1891
01:33:49,690 --> 01:33:47,750
all right well gentlemen thank you very

1892
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:49,700
much I really appreciate you being with

1893
01:33:55,090 --> 01:33:52,970
us tonight excellent program love both

1894
01:33:56,830 --> 01:33:55,100
of your both of your music and albums

1895
01:33:59,710 --> 01:33:56,840
and I want to thank our audience for

1896
01:34:01,780 --> 01:33:59,720
listening in to exploring the bizarre so

1897
01:34:04,390 --> 01:34:01,790
tune in next week which I'm sure will be

1898
01:34:10,699 --> 01:34:04,400
another excellent program so for Quebec

1899
01:34:16,939 --> 01:34:13,069
you've been listening to exploring the

1900
01:34:17,830 --> 01:34:16,949
bazaar with hosts Timothy Beckley and T

1901
01:34:20,689 --> 01:34:17,840
Swartz

1902
01:34:23,569 --> 01:34:20,699
they're taking back the night by jetting

1903
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:23,579
non-stop across the cosmos in search of

1904
01:34:29,290 --> 01:34:25,650
the truly bizarre and totally

1905
01:34:31,989 --> 01:34:29,300
unexplained with you as their combines

1906
01:34:36,469 --> 01:34:31,999
Thursday nights at 7:00 p.m. Pacific

1907
01:34:40,100 --> 01:34:36,479
10:00 p.m. Eastern on the K cor digital

1908
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:40,110
radio for more information on exploring

1909
01:34:45,859 --> 01:34:43,170
the bazaars and hosts Timothy Beckley

1910
01:34:49,069 --> 01:34:45,869
and Tim Swartz check out their K cor

1911
01:34:54,129 --> 01:34:49,079
digital radio network follow their